Oguri Shun in the japanese version look like and athlete, as does jerry yan in MG and joe cheng in ISWAK...not a bit of softness to them, and very defined, but not bulked up, musclea...there are a lot of them, but they have a purpose beyond looking good. Granted, I'm basing this on my brother and about 80% of the guys I went to school with(have I ever mwntioned that I have no idea what to do around a guy who isn't a good 10+ inches taller than me?) as opposed to a professional opinion, but...