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meganbmoore) wrote2008-06-18 12:30 am
meganbmoore) wrote2008-06-18 12:30 am
*shakes fist*
EBAY PEOPLE!
Stop outbidding me on full runs of Cardcaptor Sakura!
It makes Sakura all upset and disappointed! Do you know what happens when Sakura is upset and disappointed? It makes her have a Kurogane moment, and then everything descends into gothic shoujo crack! Too much of that is bad for the brain!
(Seriously, it's the third or so set I've been outbid on. I WILL ONLY GO SO HIGH!)
ALSO!!!
(non-fist-shakey)
While I was at work,prozacparkasked me my opinion about #148 of today's Fandom Secrets. Since she is now logged off and at least one other person here might be interested in it (redbrunja, there aren't any Avatar spoilers in the post) I shall just post it. The secret was along the lines of "I slash m/m because I think the female characters deserve a lot better than what canon gave them." I've seen that a few times before, and just ignoring any other opinions I have on fanon shipping, while I often agree that yes, the girls in fiction could do better and it seems they're just told "Here is the main guy! You must accept him even though he doesn't appreciate you or treat you well!" my reaction to that response to it is always "But, if you object on her behalf, why are you having her twiddle her thumbs while you send him off to have fun?"
(No, really, if you think canon gave her the short end of the stick and you want her to get better and you're going to do a fanon ship, why doesn't she get to go have fun while the guy who doesn't treat her good enough sits there and sulks? Why does he get to have all the fun?)
ETA: I probably don't have to say this, but just in case: no bashing the secret maker. Whoever s/he may be.
Stop outbidding me on full runs of Cardcaptor Sakura!
It makes Sakura all upset and disappointed! Do you know what happens when Sakura is upset and disappointed? It makes her have a Kurogane moment, and then everything descends into gothic shoujo crack! Too much of that is bad for the brain!
(Seriously, it's the third or so set I've been outbid on. I WILL ONLY GO SO HIGH!)
ALSO!!!
(non-fist-shakey)
While I was at work,
prozacparkasked me my opinion about #148 of today's Fandom Secrets. Since she is now logged off and at least one other person here might be interested in it (redbrunja, there aren't any Avatar spoilers in the post) I shall just post it. The secret was along the lines of "I slash m/m because I think the female characters deserve a lot better than what canon gave them." I've seen that a few times before, and just ignoring any other opinions I have on fanon shipping, while I often agree that yes, the girls in fiction could do better and it seems they're just told "Here is the main guy! You must accept him even though he doesn't appreciate you or treat you well!" my reaction to that response to it is always "But, if you object on her behalf, why are you having her twiddle her thumbs while you send him off to have fun?"(No, really, if you think canon gave her the short end of the stick and you want her to get better and you're going to do a fanon ship, why doesn't she get to go have fun while the guy who doesn't treat her good enough sits there and sulks? Why does he get to have all the fun?)
ETA: I probably don't have to say this, but just in case: no bashing the secret maker. Whoever s/he may be.
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Exactly. In terms of hypocrisy, it's not very different from the "Oh, Slash is *so* feminist because there are no women to be abused!" Or "There's always going to be inequality when there's a woman and a man involved, so I stick with slash." And honestly? I very much doubt that these people would bother with gen fic about the so awesome female characters that they're above being shipped with anyone in canon.
I mean, I would almost rather read a secret about how someone slashes because they find female characters boring. But this new obsession fandom has developed with wanting to sound feminist while hating on the female characters just makes me want to pull my hair out.
And in the bigger picture? Elevating a female character to this status where she is totally above everyone is as problematic as demeaning the character because either way, you're taking her out of the realm of the normal and adding to her otherness. Like media doesn't do that enough for us.
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The flipside to the slash argument is that I do know slashers who care a lot more about female characters-both as characters, and how they're treated in fiction-than some het only people do. There really isn't(always) a correlation between slash and hating/dismissing female characters, they just seem to go together a lot among the most verbal fans.