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meganbmoore ([personal profile] meganbmoore) wrote2009-04-18 08:58 pm

Speed Grapher ep...17?

So, how did Tsuitengu end up a crime boss who smokes money and runs a club dedicated to sexual deviations, whose inner circle gets to molest a teenaged girl who can give some of them superpowers when they molest her?

His origin, naturally, is sooper dooper extra sad and tragic.  When he was 13, his parents committed suicide because of debt, resulting in he and his 5-year-old sister being sold into slavery.  After being passed around a bit for torture and bondage and probably rape, he was sold to be a soldier who was part of an experiment.  On his last mission (it's always the last mission) everyone in his unit but him (always the last survivor) died.  To keep him alive, the scientists went Frankenstein on him and grafted parts of his dead comrades' bodies to him, giving him super powers.  Soldiers kill the scientists, he kills the soldiers, and then he sets off to destroy the people who ruined his family.  Conveniently, Kagura's family.

He is apparently adamantly opposed to the rape and trafficking of young girls.  Except Kagura.  Where he's responsible for a good bit of it.

Though at least now I know that he's not her father's zombified body wanting to marry her, and that his staring intently at a little girl and asking her age and then sparing her father wasn't because they realized that they had yet to present small children in a sexual way.

But seriously, does this "here is his angsty backstory and it totally makes him more interesting and sympathetic" thing ever work?  Because anime and manga are pretty obsessed with it.  And somehow, telling me that I should totally sympathize with people who do that and find  them more interesting for the so so sad backstory typically kills my interest.  Darcia in Wolf's Rain is a possible exception, though there, we knew from the start that it  was because he wanted to save the person he loved, and he was actually portrayed less sympathetically towards the end, not more.  Maybe Shuri in Basara, but the good and bad both were on the table there from the start, and it was never and excuse or a justification, just an explanation.  And, you know, he probably suffers for his actions more than any other manga character out there.


ETA:  Hmm...does Scar in FMA count?  It was made pretty clear from the start that his actions were wrong, but his need for vengeance was justified, and in the manga, he all but bluntly states that no, his angsty backstory doesn't make him any better.


Incidentally, this series has now had m/f, f/m, f/f and m/m rape.  At least three varieties include pedophilia.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
I think Scar works for me exactly like Shuri works for me: the good and bad both are there from the start, and it's WHY they're the way they are, not a justification, and they both know just how bad they are. (And it's rather amazing that Shuri really does work as a romantic hero.) With Scar, I think what saves him for me in both versions (though I don't think the anime ever achieved this level of clarity with the characters) is when he says he knows people (a specific someone) is justified in wanting to kill him and has every right to take his life, but he can't let that happen, because he has a goal. It's the selfawareness that saves him.

[identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
A reason, not an excuse?

I think it's used as a shortcut to characterization, much like showing that the bad guy's a pedophile or a Nazi or kicks puppies or whatever.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
Yup. I think people often forget that there's a difference between the two, and so anything you don't want to hear is an excuse, but anything that will accomplish what you want is a justified reason, and the line gets muddied. A reason is the WHY of something, and excuse is how that why makes some justified or ok or better.

And boy are both shortcuts to characterization. Like, possibly the most over the top thing in Speed Grapher is the fact that Tsutengu smokes yen notes. I think they're 1000 yen notes, but I'm not sure. Because, you know, otherwise we might miss that he has more money than he could ever spend and no morals and doesn't care about people or society. He gets to have a phallic symbol, a status symbol, and a character type symbol all in one!