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meganbmoore ([personal profile] meganbmoore) wrote2007-03-16 05:41 pm

yes, MORE Samurai Deeper Kyo

to compensate for the work drama and trauma, I went looking at more SDK stuff.

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I've been a Kyo/Yuya shipper for...uhm...ever(in my manga reading) the scenes in the other posts sent me over the edge.  A few other things I came across but didn't post about in the last few days gave me shippy bouncies.  But this?  This almost had me squeeing(loudly) at work.

note: no pics

 [personal profile] sanada's translations here.  If you don't know the series(even up to the US releases) this will be confusing, but  basically, Kyo and Kyoshiro are back their own bodies(about time) and Kyoshiro just revealed that he saw EVERYTHING Kyo did in his body, and is giving his version of certain events with Yuya, which he's blowing out of proportion and the rest of the gang is blowing even further out of proportion with their imaginations.)  But basically, Kyo is rather like a 5 year old with a sex drive trying to convince the other kids on the playground(and himself) that he doesn't like the girl...you know, the "if I liked her would I do THIS?" mentality, and he has...uhm...grabby hands. 

Yuya: ....What!?
Yukimura: ...But while Kyo's soul was in Kyoushirou's body...
Yukimura: Kyo would be able to see everything Kyoushirou was doing...
Yuya handwritten: N... no, stop...
Yukimura: [So he saw all the things Kyoushirou got to experience...!?]
(Kamijyo's Note: This is a fantasy, so it differs a bit from what actually happened)
Yukimura: Nice! *heart*
Kyoushirou: Oh no... I never... I never did anything like thaaaaaaat...
Yuya: Tch... what the...!!
Large black text: All hell breaks loose!!
Yuya: I don't remember any of that... that never...
Kyo: Don't worry, dog-face...
Kyo: Now that I'm back in my own body, I'll show you what a real man is like!!

Megan again:  real...a real  *snort*  Kyo, what've you been trying to do the whole series, huh?  *shakes head*  Actually, if I were Yuya, I'd be worried...I mean, sure, maybe he hasn't done anything more than grabby hands until now(actually, I've always figured that the thought of doing certain things in Kyoshiro's body was just a lil too odd for him) but girl, the horny guy hasn't gotten any in over 4 years and is in his own body...

Anyway, Yuya's up on a balcony with lots of rubble or something and she dumps a TON of it on them as her reaction to all this...

Yuya: NO WAY, YOU IDIOT!!!
Bon: Scary... she's strong...!! 
Yuya: I don't want anything to do with you, Kyo!!  Idiot!!  Pervert!!
Kyoushirou: ...Wh... why me too...?
Kyoushirou: Y... Yuya-san, let me tell you one thing.
Kyoushirou: Kyo does perverted things and is always teasing you and calling you a "dog-face", but...
Kyoushirou: The one who screamed your name, "Yuya", before wasn't me... it was Kyo.
Yuya: ...Huh?
Kyoushirou: What kind of man teases a girl like that?  Kyo has the mind of a three-year-old brat in that body...
Kyoushirou: ...KYAA!!  (True red eyes!?)

Megan:  Ok, Yuya gets hurt...Kyoshiro goes "oh no...let me be condescending for a whilethen get the poor girl off to a healer."  Kyo?  Goes insane-death-carnage-maim-annihilate.  I...don't think anyone really had any doubts about who was screaming her name at the top of their lungs.  But I guess Kyo didn't really like havingt hat pointed out to him...

Kyo: [I'll kill you!!]
Kyoushirou: [Waaahh!!  Maybe you're a four-year-old?]
Bon: ...They're like two bratty kids... (It's the first time I've seen Kyo act so silly!)
Sakuya: ...I'm glad.
Bon: What!?
Sakuya: They're back to the way they used to be...
Bon: ...They've always been like that...?
Bon: Really?
Sakuya: ...But I'm surprised too.
Sakuya: For someone as awkward with words as Kyo... to say that...
Kyo: I don't want to fight a man who can't even protect a woman!
Kyo: Who do you think she's wanted to be with all along...!?
Sakuya: Maybe Kyo also feels that way about a woman?
Sakuya: [We're always looking for...]
Sakuya: [A sense of belonging...]

Megan:  Yes Sakuya, Kyo loves Yuya, shush.  Also?  Kyo darling, get over that idea she loves Kyoshiro.  She got over that long, long ago.  (Though it is kinda cutethat he's still convinced she loves the "better man"

Anyways, at this point, the Big Bad shows up and drags Yuya off, convinced that she's a seer and can seethe future because of her conviction that Kyo will win(stupid Aka no Ou...she doesn't have psychic powers, she has OTP faith powers, and those are better) and puts her in that silly little outfit(which is actually kinda cute in a way, just...kinda silly...)  Kyo doesn't react well, of course.

Here's some of the text during the whisking off:

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Kyoushirou: Kyo!!
Bon: He... he stopped the arrow with his hand...!!
Sasuke: W... wicked...
Kyoushirou: Kyo...
Kyo?: A demon...
Kyo: ...You bastard...

12
Kyo: I swear I will kill you!!
Aka-chan: What an amusing thing to say...

Megan:  Kyo, quit saying it and just do it...

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Yuya: ...Kyo!!
Yuya: Kyaa!!
Aka-chan: ...But doesn't the future belong to me?
Yuya: N... no!!  You've got it all wrong!!  I can't see the future or anything.....
Kyo: FUCK!!

Megan:  Kyo doesn't care for others touching Yuya much.  Just an observation...

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Kyo: Just wait.
Kyo: I'm coming.
Yuya: ...Okay.
Aka-chan: ...Well now, I don't really need that woman anymore, do I?
Sakuya: Ah... ah...
Kyoushirou: S... Sakuya...!!

Megan:  Lets focus more on Kyo getting there and less on Sakuya...

Then Aka whisks Yuya off:


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Yuya: B... But... I don't have the power to see the future...
Yuya: ...I just can't...!!
Aka-chan: If that is not the case... then why do I feel this light?  You have the same light as the seer Sakuya...
Aka-chan: One light which shines upon this doomed, hopeless world...
Yuya: ...Let me go!
Yuya: Let me go back to Kyo... and the others.....
Aka-chan: ...Soon you will no longer feel that way...
Aka-chan: ...Look.
Aka-chan: I can give you everything you could ever desire......
Aka-chan: ...That outfit suits you well, but is there anything else I can give to you?  All you need do is ask.

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Yuya: I... I don't need any of this stuff...!!
Yuya: I only want one thing... and that's to be with Kyo!!
Aka-chan: I think you should be a good girl and stop lying to me... humans are disgusting creatures, motivated by greed...
Aka-chan: Don't you see it's pointless to defy me?  Your heart is now linked to mine... As long as you are of use to me, it seems that we'll be spending a very, very long time together...
Yuya: Ah!!

Megan:  All she needs is to be with Kyo...I think cute fluffy things were born with that line...(why couldn't Kyo hear that?)

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Aka-chan: Now tell me...
Aka-chan: My future...
Yuya: Wh... what...?
Aka-chan: ...That was fast.

That was fast was Kyo getting there...(well, Kyo and the rest of the gang, who, while beloved, aren't as important because they aren't in borderline psychotic OTP rescue mode)  Kyo also gets in an awesome punch on Aka
 that got it's own two page spread...and then...and then...


I don't understand ALL the details(I'm missing chapters before this) but, to beat Aka no Ou, Kyo essentially gives in to his demon side, which makes him go nuts and attack EVERYTHING.  Yuya throws herself at him to try to stop him but psycho!Kyo throws her off and is about to stab her and good!Kyo STABS HIMSELF IN THE ARM to protect her.  Then there's(extremely demonic) face stroking and hugging and what looks to be a kiss...  *screams and flails like a rabid fangirl*

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2007-03-20 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing about Kyo is that on the one hand, he really is exactly what he seems to be and he's unapologetic about it, but there's also a lot more to him than that, he's just not good at admitting it(vehemently opposed, in fact) His relationship with Yuya forces him out of that, though, because there's no way for him to get around the fact he has someone he wants to protect. Even Akira and Hotaru, who filled the role of younger brothers, were with him to become stronger, so protectiveness didn't really factor in there, which is why the other characters tend to react so strongly to her, because even though maybe WE(and Yuya) can't see the change immediately, they can(which is why Akira initially wished he'd just killed her when they first met, because then he didn't realize how much she was starting to matter, but later on he did)

Akira is not an oddball. He's a psychotic nut. They all are. It's part of their charm.

[identity profile] yaoipimp.livejournal.com 2007-03-20 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Which makes for some interesting character studies!

Pfft. Psychotic nut. Oddball. Same difference!

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2007-03-20 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Psychologists could spend YEARS writing about the SDK guys...Akira would break any one of them and Hotaru would drive any of them nuts, though.

And..."oddball" could give one a false sense of security though...kinda like walking by Akira on the street and thinking what a polite, harmless guy he seemed to be.

[identity profile] yaoipimp.livejournal.com 2007-03-20 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure there are some who'd like a challenge!

Good point! First impressions. I must admit I'm still getting over my first impressions of him.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2007-03-20 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh...what first impression would that be?

[identity profile] yaoipimp.livejournal.com 2007-03-21 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
My first impression being based on his appearance in the anime (naturally).

I think at first, to me, he seemed very generic and flat. Young boy, pretends to be nice, clearly hiding something, is very strong, blahdeblah, you didn't do what I want now I'mma stamp my foot and help these guys out! (Though not really)

Bratty. That's it. (I've been thinking this over for a while and I couldn't pinpoint the exact idea I originally had, so I had to go over it a few times and write it down!) I think that's how he came across. ABLE to be well mannered, definately strong but BRATTY.

Of course, I'm seeing him develop and suchforth now, so it strikes me as less so (And I like him more!). but damn if that idea still lingers in my head!

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2007-03-21 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
This is yet more proof that a faithful adaptation of the manga needs to be made. But yeah, in the anime, you don't get as much of a sense of how conniving and clever Akira can be. A bit of it is brattiness, yes, but it's largely that he has certain expectations of Kyo, ones that Kyo told and trained him to have, and he sees Kyo as having not lived up to those expectations and(rightly) targets Yuya as the cause. Of course, eventually he figures out that that's not really the case, Kyo's just different, and he starts following Kyo again.

Akira also(to me) comes across as younger in the anime, ditto for Hotaru, they're, I think, 19 and 22 when the anime starts.

But the development with Akira, Hotaru and Shinrei alone is cause enough to check outhe manga.

[identity profile] yaoipimp.livejournal.com 2007-03-21 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
*nodnod* AGREED. I remember stumbling onto love_deeper after seeing the anime and reading up to...maybe volume 4 of the manga. All this talk of Akira, Hotaru and Shinrei (among others) left me REALLY wanting to get more manga. To me, before that, they'd just been random background characters with not much interest to them.

I agree on the younger thing too...they both seem more boyish in the anime (and in the anime it seems to be more "delusions of granduer", while in the manga those claims are pretty justified. They're STRONG.)

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2007-03-21 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
The anime is very much the "lite" versions of the characters and again, they couldn't really get into them in 26 episodes so they jusy had their basic, initial roles. Shinrei and Akira are relatively right, if stripped down, but Hotaru(even though I like him in the anime) is really missing most of his personality. He's all serious and focused...it's just wrong. Manga Hotaru would never try to kill Akira as presented there...too much effort, considering that he doesn't REALLY care about the Mibu.

If Akira and Hotaru in the manga ever REALLY went at it, Japan would be in SERIOUS trouble.

[identity profile] yaoipimp.livejournal.com 2007-03-21 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, Hotaru was a shock to the system when I saw him in the manga. (Pretty recently actually) And saw other bits and pieces about him on the community. he's just....so much more AMUSING. But yeah, as much as I don't like many of the anime changes, I can understand why so many were neccesasary. Still, blargh.

Verily. o_o That would be frightening.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2007-03-21 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, anime and manga Hotaru are NOTHING alike. I love Hotaru because he's so incredibly spacey...he's almost the most adorable thing ever. I mean, I get that they couldn't really get into him and tell the story they wanted to, but...sigh...

[identity profile] yaoipimp.livejournal.com 2007-03-22 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I really do like Hotaru lately. He's just so...oddly amusing! (And that Hotaru's Treasured Item chibi booklet is the best thing ever...)

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2007-03-22 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Hotaru is just so...bizarre. And endearing. There's a scene in vol 21 that's just so...sad, because he's like a 5 year old asking a stray cat why it had to go and get hit by a car and just doesn't "get" it, and then you realize that he does, he's just trying to cope. He really has completely separated himself from reality, only way for him to survive, really. He's just simultaneously so childlike and so scarred by the world.

[identity profile] yaoipimp.livejournal.com 2007-03-22 05:37 pm (UTC)(link)
o_o And now I want to hug him. And read more manga!

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2007-03-22 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Hotaru always wants to be hugged. Or jumped. Or shaken.

Every manga needs a character like Hotaru...they make so many things canon that things like crack!fic are irrelevant.

[identity profile] yaoipimp.livejournal.com 2007-03-23 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Anything'll do. So long as everyone's happy!

*snicker* Good point! Why leave it to crack!fic when you can put it in the anime?

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2007-03-23 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
What's scary is crackfic WITH Hotaru...

I mean, at one point in the manga, he's sitting around with a bear's dead head in his lap...and he skips off to fights...

I mean, given what he makes canon, can you imagine people trying to up that?

[identity profile] yaoipimp.livejournal.com 2007-03-23 11:26 am (UTC)(link)
As an ammendmant to my other comment..by "put it in the anime" I meant "manga"!

O_o Isn't he just....sitting next to a panda or something at one point too? Hotaru's all kinds of special. XD

And..no. That's something I'm kinda thankful for. XD

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2007-03-23 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. At the end of the manga he goes on his own, special version of a world tour and befriends pandas in China.

[identity profile] yaoipimp.livejournal.com 2007-03-23 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
And becomes a pirate? XD

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2007-03-23 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Among other things. Its just what he was up to most recently when he gets back to Japan.

[identity profile] yaoipimp.livejournal.com 2007-03-24 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Well, hopefully a full time job is on the way...I'll have money to blow!