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meganbmoore ([personal profile] meganbmoore) wrote2009-04-06 10:37 pm
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Babylon 5 1.1-1.8

I have, I think, figured out why I often find it hard to latch onto space scifi, or if I do latch on to it, to like it different reasons than others seem to. When I watch space scifi with humans and aliens, I seem to want to know more about the aliens, and less about the humans. It’s rather like how I like Crichton in Farscape, but often think of him as an excuse to have all the aliens, human looking and otherwise. The shows, however, seem to make the natural assumption that since I’m a human, I’m more interested in the humans. I don’t blame them, though that only seems to be true for me with Stargate: SG-1.

Babylon 5 is a classic 90s scifi series about a space station designed to help promote peace between all the known races in the mid-23rd century, created after a war between Earth and a race called the Minbari. I haven’t learned a lot of character and race names yet (almost too many characters to keep track of, and I’m bad with names to start with), so bear with me. Possibly the most striking thing about the series, watching it for the first time in 2008, is how incredibly dated the FX are. They’re pretty decent when it’s just the FX, but when it’s FX mixed with live action, you get things like the most hilarious lightning I’ve seen. So far, I find most of the episodic plots forgettable to ok enough. The characters and their stories, though, are largely engaging.

The alien preference seems to be holding steady, though, as the only human characters who’ve really caught my attention so far are Ivanova and the blonde telepath. Ivanova because she’s superstoic and I like stoic second-in-commands. The telepath because I find it interesting how she seems to dislike and fear the Psi-Corps, yet she also buys into their doctrine regarding behavior, and that telepaths are dangerous and must be controlled. I find Sinclair, Garibaldi, the doctor, and Sinclair’s girlfriend all to be perfectly fine, if a bit typical so far, but not as attention grabbing as those two, or the aliens.

But the aliens! I adore Londo, the loud ambassador with Shi’ar-like hair who seems to be a noisy braggart and more than a little ridiculous, but who’s also rather jaded to the world, and knows how to work systems to his end. Then there’s his opposite number, a lizard-like ambassador whose race seems to have been the enemy of Londo’s, and who is almost as much of a loud braggart, but who’s rather scheming and surprisingly thoughtful at times. I also really like his super-efficient and long suffering (even after just the first day on the job) Na’Toth, who is listed in the credits, but has only been in one episode so far. My favorite, though, is Delenn, the Zhaan-like representative of the Minbari, who keeps a lot of secrets, both about her own rank, and apparently about the war.

There are several things that jar me on the human/alien front. I get why they specifically refer to everything in Earth time, because all the races have different measurements of time, and they need something to all use, but some descriptions startle me. For example, at one point, Garibaldi, who’s a security officer, is asking an alien to describe someone, and asks if they were humanoid, or looked like an alien. I mean, for starters, he’s the alien to the person he was talking to, but the wording overall was weird. Then there’s the fact that it sometimes seems that the less human an alien looks, the more likely it is to be evil. The most “Uhm…what?” moment for me, though, is when there’s a firefight and Sinclair, Ivanova, and Random Helpless Alien Ambassador (RHAA) are being shot at. RHAA is shackled and doesn’t look like she can move very fast, while Sinclair and Ivanova are uninjured and not shacckled. So Sinclair covers Ivanova while the head for cover. Now, I strongly endorse Ivanova not getting shot and/or killed, but you know, she’s clearly very physically capable and wouldn’t be second-in-command if she couldn’t handle herself in a fight. If I were Sinclair, I’d be trusting her to get to cover while I helped RHAA. Instead, we see RHAA crawling for cover, and then she’s never seen again. And so I spent the next few minutes going “But what about poor RHAA? Was she shot? Is anyone going to unshackle her? Where’d she go?”

So, fun series so far, if mostly for the characters.

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[personal profile] pikabot 2009-04-07 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
Part of the problem with the FX is that there were some major mastering issues when they were moving it onto DVD. Basically, they shot all the live-action stuff in widescreen, but due to budget only made the CG stuff in non-widescreen, because widescreen wasn't very prevalent back in the 90s. They figured that if they needed to, they could just take the CG models and redo it in widescreen later. Problem is, at some point betweenthen and when the DVD sets were released, the CG models got deleted. And they didn't have the money to completely redo it. So. You get that. You're right, it does look pretty hideous at times (although less so as the series progresses). I remember one shot where Ivanova's uniform turned bright green suddenly.

If you like the first season, just wait because the middle seasons of the show's run (2, 3, and 4) are absolutely amazing. Very tightly and intelligently plotted.

(And yes, Londo and G'kar are the bestest things ever)

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-04-07 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair to the show, it's not much worse than some other 90s FX, and better than some.

I love it when they fight! And how their assistants suffer so! And when G'Kar was tricked into helping Londo! (And I just realized...I think the first time that I heard about the series fannishly was someone explaining to me why they shipped them...I had no idea who they were talking about at the time, but I'm positive they were the icon...)
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[personal profile] pikabot 2009-04-07 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, I love the assistants. Have you gotten to Delenn's aide Lennier yet? Because of the three, he's my favorite.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-04-07 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
Is he the one that was kinda hero worshipping her and she told him to stop treating her like her real rank, because no one knew about that? If so, he was in one episode (the one with all the cultures' religions) but hasn't been seen since. Just like Na'Toth. But yeah, if that was him, I liked him.
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[personal profile] pikabot 2009-04-07 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, that's him. He gets seriously awesome in the later series.

[identity profile] coraa.livejournal.com 2009-04-07 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
Yes! Lennier is one of the characters who develops the most, IMHO. (Ivanova, Delenn, Londo and G'Kar are also awesome, but they start out awesome, whereas Lennier and Vir start out humble and develop.)

[identity profile] coraa.livejournal.com 2009-04-07 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
I agree -- I think the FX can be hard to get past, but if you can, the series reaches its peak from about halfway tbrough Season 2 to Season 4.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-04-07 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds similar to Farscape.
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[identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com 2009-04-07 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who grew up on Doctor Who and Blake's 7, I was always confused when people would say B5 had bad FX...

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-04-07 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
I have yet to see either of those...

[identity profile] coraa.livejournal.com 2009-04-07 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
Well, it surely had excellent FX for 1995-ish -- when I was watching it air for the first time, I was v. impressed.. It just hasn't aged that well, and particularly didn't survive the transition to DVD all that well.
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[personal profile] pikabot 2009-04-07 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't have a problem with it at all, but that could be because I have an undying love for hard sci-fi and STARFURIES EEEEEEEEEEE

[identity profile] coraa.livejournal.com 2009-04-07 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't have a problem with it at all when I first saw it, circa 1995-1998. And yes, yay Starfuries! It just didn't survive the transition to DVD all that well.