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meganbmoore ([personal profile] meganbmoore) wrote2009-04-08 11:25 am

manga: Antique Bakery Vol 1-2

This is one of those series that tends to get a lot of “if you don’t like *insert genre/trope/etc. thing is an example of* you might still like this” recs. In this case, yaoi. But then, despite often being billed as yaoi and released by a publisher that primarily licenses yaoi titles, this isn’t actually yaoi, but is a josei title where one of the four leads is gay, and another possibly (probably) bisexual.

Tachibana is the scion of a rich family who decides to leave the family business and open a cake shop in what used to be an antique store. With his family’s money, he’s able to hire Ono, a “legendary cake master” who also attended Tachibana’s high school, and confessed his love for Tachibana, only to be rejected. Ono’s cakes are exquisite, but he comes with complications that make hiring a staff difficult. For one thing, he’s scared of women, and his general reaction to them seems to be either to lose the ability to speak, to run away crying, or some combination. Obviously, a female employee is out of the question. For another, in the years since being rejected, Ono has become “a gay of demonic charm.” Despite his mousy appearance, just exposure to him tends to make men of any sexuality fall in love with him, and fights have broken out at his former jobs.

Eventually, they’re able to find Kanda, a former boxer with a sweet tooth who isn’t Ono’s type at all, and is too busy trying to learn to bake as well as Ono to even notice the demonic charm. Later, they’re joined by Tachibana’s hopelessly helpless butler, Chikage, who was raised by Tachibana’s family. Chikage is very much Ono’s type, but is also so simple and puppylike that just thinking about it tends to make Ono have spasms of guilt.

The food pr0n is amazing, and Tachibana’s descriptions of the various cakes offered by the shop are both detailed and somehow hilarious. Like many manga series revolving around a shop, the series starts off mostly focusing on the stories of the various customers, and then shifts to being more about the people who run the shop. Normally, I’m ready for the anthology section to take a back seat to the main story, but here, I wanted it to last longer.

I’m amused by both Tachibana and Ono, but I’ve long since lost almost any interest in both rich angsty playboys and men who no one can resist, resulting in an endless stream of lovers. I find the childish-but somehow apparently the most grownup and self-aware of the lot-Kanda and the puppyish Chikage much more endearing, but they’re given much less attention.

Overall, it’s very funny and charming, though I suspect that Yoshinaga Fumi’s kinks are a little closer to my squicks, based on the huge-if acknowledged-power imbalance in Ono and Chikage’s relationship, and with what seems to be her approach to Tachibana’s family and past.

[identity profile] mscongeniality.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, this is the first thing I've read about Antique Bakery that made me think I should give it a try. I might just have to pick it up.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Most of the positive reviews left me fairly cold, but a couple discussions made me decide to check it out.
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[personal profile] snarp 2009-04-08 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I suspect that Yoshinaga Fumi’s kinks are a little closer to my squicks, based on the huge-if acknowledged-power imbalance in Ono and Chikage’s relationship, and with what seems to be her approach to Tachibana’s family and past.

Never, ever, ever read Yoshinaga's Gerard and Jacques. Trust me on this.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Me specifically, or problematic in general?

[identity profile] musouka-manga.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
In general. Whoo boy.

[identity profile] musouka-manga.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, but if you like the food porn and want to avoid any squicks, give "Kinou Nani Tabeta" a try. I really do think it's her absolute best series. The main gay couple has their problems, but they're normal problems that any couple would go through instead of squicky power issues.

Even Antique Bakery...man, those doujinshi that continued the series left such a sour taste in my mouth. It really pretty much ruined it for me, and if that's what she had in mind from the beginning, I'm glad that there seemed to be editor interference from the publishing side.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-04-09 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
I have to say that there doesn't seem to be a possible pairing combination among the main four that doesn't somehow seem to be extremely problematic for me. Well, Kanda and Chikage's main problem would be common sense...
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[personal profile] snarp 2009-04-09 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
You specifically, due to major power imbalance issues. Possibly also in general. It's pretty and funny, like everything she does, but it's not her strongest work even if you're willing to go along with the central relationship. Also, there is straight-up porn in there - not sure if you'd be okay with that.

(And I would also recommend Kinou Nani Tabeta. Though I think it's only out in scans right now.)
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[identity profile] smillaraaq.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, even aside from the BL content I'd warn against damn near all of Yoshinaga's stuff other than Flower of Life, Ichigenme and The Moon and Sandals (and the latter two I'd not suggest to Megan specifically as they're more blatant yaoi), because whooooo boy does Yoshinaga LOVE to play with twisty uncomfortable power differences of age and status and so forth. (These things are generally more on the meh-to-squick continuum rather than kinks for me as well, but somehow I find Yoshinaga's storytelling style to be so irresistible that if she's writing/drawing I will devour it eagerly anyway, even though I'm also squirming a little bit the entire time.)

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Isn't she also the mangaka of Ooku?
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[identity profile] smillaraaq.livejournal.com 2009-04-09 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, but I haven't read that yet (not yet licensed and I haven't stumbled across scanlations), so I can't directly vouch for whether or not there's going to be any squicky power imbalances in it or not.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-04-09 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, it has been licensed by Viz, and is coming out sometime later this year.
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[identity profile] smillaraaq.livejournal.com 2009-04-09 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
D'oh, right, I meant "not yet in print". Allergy meds have me extra-spacey right now. *facepalms*

(Given the premise, I would be rather surprised if there isn't going to be some power-imbalance stuff in this one -- it's one of the themes, along with foodporn, that she keeps going back to again and again, and it tends to be more extreme in her historical series. At this point I trust her storytelling and my history of reactions to it enough to expect that I'll find it fascinating no matter what, but she is definitely more than willing to explore some really uncomfortable places with power dynamics...)

[identity profile] keelieinblack.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
You're probably right about the kink/squick issue, given what I've seen and read of Yoshinaga Fumi's doujinshi for the series.

I do love this series, though. I just wish the various adaptations were as likable--the Korean movie was good, but both the Japanese TV series and anime were fairly blah.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
My first exposure to the franchise was the jdrama, though only the first episode. At the time, I was amazed that it could be boring with that cast, which is why I watched it. Now I'm even more amazed, since I know the basis is entertaining.

[identity profile] woodburner.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, I just watched the K-movie for this. It was so amazingly fun that it more than made up for the absolute fail of the anime adaptation. (I haven't seen any of the J-drama, but as I've heard they made Ono straight, I can hardly see how it's even worth mentioning.)

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I watched 1 ep of the jdrama because I like some of the actors. I thought Ono was completely gay and was surprised when I learned he wasn't supposed to be gay there. I think Fujiki Naohito ignored the memo.

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2009-04-09 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I really want to check out the K-movie, everyone says it's adorable.

[identity profile] woodburner.livejournal.com 2009-04-09 07:56 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, it is. (http://lets-look.com/index.php?showtopic=11742&st=0)
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[identity profile] estara.livejournal.com 2009-04-09 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you very much for that link. I have the Japanese dorama but I didn't know where to find this.

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2009-04-11 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Shiny. Do I need to download all three things?

[identity profile] woodburner.livejournal.com 2009-04-11 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah - the movie's divided into two parts, and then there's the subtitle file. You need to put them all into one folder, make sure the sub file is named the exact same way as the video file, and play the movie files with something that can handle soft subs, like VLC player or zoomplayer or Media Player classic.

There's also [livejournal.com profile] halcyonjazz's pimping post here (http://halcyonjazz.livejournal.com/270425.html?view=7995225#t7995225) - I originally downloaded hers but for some reason the files broke on me and I couldn't watch the full movie, which is when I went on a frothing rampage and found the link above. XD; I actually used the sub files halcyonjazz shared for the movie files at the first link I posted, and it worked fine.

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2009-04-11 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
Cool. ::downloading::
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[identity profile] smillaraaq.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Normally, I’m ready for the anthology section to take a back seat to the main story, but here, I wanted it to last longer.

I’m amused by both Tachibana and Ono, but I’ve long since lost almost any interest in both rich angsty playboys and men who no one can resist, resulting in an endless stream of lovers. I find the childish-but somehow apparently the most grownup and self-aware of the lot-Kanda and the puppyish Chikage much more endearing, but they’re given much less attention.


Well, if it's any consolation, the anthology-aspect never goes completely away, and Chikage and Kanda (who are great favorites of mine, too) get lots of wonderful moments in the remaining volumes. In Book 3 you get the bit I think I'd mentioned previously about a pair of female reporters, some great bits about Chikage's family, and early in Book 4 there's some wonderful Kanda-centric stuff -- he actually reminds me more than a bit of Goku, when all is said and done. Although the end of the last book does wind up focusing a lot more on Tachibana, who I didn't dislike but did find the least interesting of all the guys...but there's enough of a mystery aspect to that final arc that I wasn't too bothered by his getting the spotlight.

(Definitely stay away from the post-series DJ, of course; the yaoi subtext of the main series becomes blatant, explicit text there.)

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Kanda was definitely reminding me of Goku.
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[identity profile] smillaraaq.livejournal.com 2009-04-09 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
The Goku parallels will get REALLY strong by Book 4.

[identity profile] ivy-chan.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I watched the anime, and god, I love the food porn. I think Farmer Boy introduced me to food porn, and it grabbed my heart and never let go. I spent hours after watching the anime Antique Bakery wanting to go and buy cakes from one of our bakeries nearby. The series itself wasn't anything I would have watched outside the cake porn, but I did like how the series handled Tachibana's past and subsequent Issues. And yeah, Kanda was nifty.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the Korean movie is generally regarded as the only decent adaptation, so you might like the story better there or in the manga.

[identity profile] nebulia.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the thing that makes Antique Bakery considered yaoi are the hardcore explicit 14 (15 now? not sure) yaoi doujin that Yoshinaga did for the series. xD Though I really like the series itself for portraying gay characters without it being BL or yaoi. :)

But I loved Chikage and Kanda too! They were so cute! I wanted to see them more as well (I wanted more about Chikage's daughter and wife. That was perhaps my favorite side story. :D).

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-04-08 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I really liked that Ono actually goes to gay bars and has a social life.