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meganbmoore ([personal profile] meganbmoore) wrote2009-05-05 10:24 am
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Sydney White and Gregory Maguire

I didn't really go in for most teenybopper movies even when I was one, but I thought I'd check Sydney White out because I like fairy tale adaptations.  Like Sleeping Beauty and Cinderella, Snow White isn't  a fairy tale I've ever been particularly fond of, always prefering story like The Snow Queen, East of the Sun West of the Moon, The Twelve Dancing Princesses, Beauty and the Beast, The Little Mermaid, The Seven Swans, and even The Frog Prince.  Like Ever After, though, it seems you can make me like the story if you rewrite it so that the heroine is the heroine of her own story instead of getting rescued by a prince she barely knows because she's pretty and pure and does chores.

This sets the story on a college campus where Sydney, a plumber's daughter, joines the sorority her mother was a member of only to be kicked out by Rachel Witchburn, who rules the campus, for not being "Sorority material."  And because the guy Rachel likes likes Sydney.  I may or may not love Rachel because she tried to run down the marching band.  The seven dwarves are the seven campus dorks who live in a rundown cottage on campus, and who Sydney uses to try to overthrow the absolute rule of the campus sororities and fraternities.

By pur coincidence, I've also started to read Gregory Maquire's Mirror, Mirror, which is a retelling of Snow White set in Itally in the early 1500s, with Lucrezia Borgia as the wicked stepmother.  I should be in love, but am actually a bit bored, I think mainly because there are already I think 4 narrative voices in 50 pages, and none really grab me, though I'm sticking with it, though it's mostly making me want to reread Cantarella.  For fans of Maguire's: does it get more interesting when the lead grows up?  Is this one of his better books?  Well liked?  Etc.

[identity profile] kirarakim.livejournal.com 2009-05-05 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I am not a big fan of Gregory Maguire. I didn't read the one you speak of but I read Wicked and Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister. The 2nd one was better than the former but I don't know while his ideas are good his storytelling skills don't impress me much.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-05-05 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I suspect that'll end up my opinion, too.

[identity profile] darkelf105.livejournal.com 2009-05-05 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Er, I tried to read Wicked, really, really tried, but I could not get into it. It kinda sounds like maybe all of Maguire's books are like that, but I couldn't say for certain because I found Wicked to be so boring, despite an awesome lead character, that I never tried another one of his novels.

However, I ♥ because you totally reminded me that I own all three of the Twelve Kingdoms novels and that I've never read them. I'm fifty pages away from finishing the first one...and you are right, the story holds up under Tokyopop's treatment...and ....and, how much do I love this series? I'm actually going to have to rewatch the anime, now that I've been reminded how awesome it was. I had forgotten how much I loved Yoko's development as a character.

Also, because I am to lazy to go back and find the post, I love shiny retellings of the Little Mermaid, so obviously I had to go buy Evyione when I saw your post. It was worth the money, so thank you!

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-05-05 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Is it bad that in Evyione, at this point, I'd rather she go for her cousin that the merman or angsty guy?

Twelve Kingdoms is great! The Tokyopop translations are lacking in parts (such as terminology) but they did a decent job overall.

[identity profile] darkelf105.livejournal.com 2009-05-05 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol, I like Evyione very much and I really want her to have a good, stable, nice relationship and I can't see that happening with either the merman (who I'm pretty sure is DOOMED, DOOMED*) or with a dude named Fidelis. However, I wasn't sure about Owain till the scene near then end where he's huddled on the step of Evyione's mum's tomb jumping at shadows and trying hard to be grumpy and not scared. Then I was like, that's the bishie for me.

Yeah, I find parts of the Tokyopop stuff a little strange, but overall it just means there is MOAR to the series than there was before, and so I am happy. I really, really hope they don't cancel. I have money, well not really, but I'd give my food money for more, honest!

*At this point, I'm kinda hoping the Sea Witch and the merman get together...

[identity profile] kingcrankycat.livejournal.com 2009-05-05 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Like the posters above me the only Maguire I read was "Wicked" (after I saw the awesome musical), and it was really, really bad. Obviously I can't judge him just on one book, but based on that... no, "Mirror, Mirror" isn't going to get better, it'll probably get worse. For your sake, though, I do hope it gets better.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-05-05 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not BAD, it's just that the writing doesn't match the elements. Things I've heard about Wicked are actually why I wanted to check his books out.

[identity profile] kingcrankycat.livejournal.com 2009-05-05 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Wicked started pretty well, but went downhill really fast and ended in a trainwreck. It was very disappointing after seeing the musical. "Mirror, Mirror" came out eight years after "Wicked," though, so maybe he improved in the interim.
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[identity profile] radiotrash.livejournal.com 2009-05-05 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh I couldn't get through Mirror,Mirror either but I don't think I even made it to 50 pages. I was so immensely bored with it.

I tried Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister but halfway through the book I realized that I didn't care for any of the characters and was, again, really bored and just put it down and walked away.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-05-05 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
It is LUCREZIA BORGIA and the Wicked Stepmother. I'll at least give it to page 100 for that.
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[identity profile] radiotrash.livejournal.com 2009-05-05 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope it gets better for you!

I wanted to add though as just a throwaway comment but while I appreciate what he's trying to do in retelling fairytales I think he does it clumsily? At least that's how I felt with Confessions. I get that he wanted to focus on the step-sisters and make them more human but what he did was just switch their roles. The step-sisters were poor hard working girls and Cinderella was just a spoiled brat. I would have been more interesting to have all three balanced out with thier own faults and perhaps reasons, good or bad, for their choices but instead we get extremes again. Blah.

Anyway you've made it a lot farther in Mirror, Mirror then I have so good luck!

[identity profile] mscongeniality.livejournal.com 2009-05-05 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I read Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister and was soundly underwhelmed. As I recall, I had the same turnoffs that most people here did. Namely, great ideas with crap execution.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Seems to be the general consensus.

[identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com 2009-05-05 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, no one in these comments like Maguire! I have to say that I actually do like him a lot, although Mirror Mirror is my least favorite of his books. It came off to me as very slow-moving and vague, and I never got into it.

My favorites of his are Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister (though it comes off as much more YA than his other novels) and Wicked, which I adore. I will say that the book Wicked is very different from the musical, so if someone saw the musical first and came to the book expecting that, I'd see why they'd be disappointed. I like the book better (possibly because I read it first), but they are completely different creatures. I think of the book as more adult, dark, and political, but that could just be me.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Well, it may be telling that this is the only book of his that i've seen used.

[identity profile] tianneh.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 09:51 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry for butting in, but I concur.

We are the only two. This makes me so sad >:.

I read Wicked before watching the musical.

[identity profile] ulkis.livejournal.com 2009-05-05 04:59 pm (UTC)(link)
For fans of Maguire's: does it get more interesting when the lead grows up? Is this one of his better books? Well liked? Etc.

I liked it a lot better than "Wicked" (which I would have liked better if he had cut out a lot of the digressions), but overall I think Maguire is a little dull. What seems to get the best reviews for him seems to be "Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister", which I haven't read.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
From comments, I suspect that this is his weakest book.

[identity profile] animeshon.livejournal.com 2009-05-05 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha I absolutely love Sydney White! I just thought that Sydney was a perfect example of what a fairytale princess should be like: tough, smart and able to save herself!

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Well, you'll notice a trend in most of my prefered fairy tales...
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[identity profile] mystickeeper.livejournal.com 2009-05-05 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG I have owned Mirror Mirror for like, 5 years BUT I DID NOT KNOW LUCREZIA BORGIA WAS IN IT!!

Holy shit I should catch up on Cantarella.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
Sadly, by page 80, I think I'm too bored to finish it...

[identity profile] anime-babble.livejournal.com 2009-05-05 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Being a fairy tale retelling junkie, I eagerly picked up Confessions of An Ugly Stepsister when it came out.

I echo what's been said here; good idea, crap execution. Particulary because it was Cinderella, it's been done and done so much better.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Cinderella is the hardest kind of retelling to get excited about, I think.
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[identity profile] kyuuketsukirui.livejournal.com 2009-05-05 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't read Mirror, Mirror, but I loved Wicked like burning. I have all the rest of his books on my shelf to read, just haven't got to them yet.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-05-06 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
I'm giving up on Mirror, Mirror, but I think I'll still watch for Wicked.