Laura Holt, Nancy Drew and Veronica Mars
May. 26th, 2007 01:11 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
meganbmooreIncidentally, I've gone back to Laura as my default avatar(though it may not stay this Laura) Haven't had her as my default in about a year, I don't think.
Anyway, I've been thinking(and have since I first saw Veronica Mars) that really, Nancy Drew is NOT the female detective people should compare Veronica to. Sure, there's the "blonde teen detective" bit, but take away the superficial parts, and really, there's no resemblance.
Now, I LIKE Nancy, but really, she's something of a goody goody. Veronica? Completely not a goody goody(at least, not since Lilly's death.) Veronica will lie, cheat, manipulate and con whoever she has to to get what she wants, none of which Nancy would ever do(the small deceit or manipulation? Sure. But nothing on Veronica's levels.) But Laura Holt? The woman built a famous detective agency around a con and a fictional boss, and she carried out the con for years, both before and after a "real" con artist wormed his way into her con. Lying, breaking and entering, manipulation...heck, even fraud...they're all acceptable to her if it'll let her run her own life the way she wants...Steele is(initially) just another thing to work and control to meet her goals.
Now Nancy? Could and would never do that? Veronica? Tell the girl she can't do what she wants with her life because she's not a man and put her back in the relative stone age of technology(as she would see it) and she so very much would. In a heartbeat. Probably faster than Laura did.
No, Laura isn't as obviously underhanded and devious as Veronica is and is far more subtle, but it's definately there.
Also, Nancy is all about the boyscouts. Laura and Veronica? Well, they may TELL themselves they like the boyscouts(Veronica a lot more forcefully than Laura) but really, they're all about the bad boys. Even without Logan, there's just this feeling of "wrong" with Veronica/Duncan(even before I started liking LoVe is s1, I was hoping they wouldn't get back together) and I understand it's even worse in that regard with Veronica/Piz. And Laura? Girl had the perfect nice guy right there in Murphy. If she were ever going to fall for a nice guy, it would have been him(poor Murphy...and Bernice...you were both so missed after s1...) and none of the guys who liked her ever stood a chance. If she had ever REALLY wanted to be rid of Steele, she could have been...she's not exactly a stupid woman. But she wanted him there, so he stayed. And, of course, when they DID actually bring in a romantic rival for Steele...well, sure, he sometimes SEEMED to be the nice guy, but really, he was just as sneaky and underhanded as they were. If he hadn't been, he wouldn't have appealed to Laura at all.
(note: I do like Nancy Drew and the old old old Nancy Drew books were one of my first major intros into reading, just....you know...the Nancy/Veronica comparison kinda gets to me...I guess)
Hrm...I am sleepy and have NO idea if all that makes sense...
Yeah, quick check of flist and then bed...
Anyway, I've been thinking(and have since I first saw Veronica Mars) that really, Nancy Drew is NOT the female detective people should compare Veronica to. Sure, there's the "blonde teen detective" bit, but take away the superficial parts, and really, there's no resemblance.
Now, I LIKE Nancy, but really, she's something of a goody goody. Veronica? Completely not a goody goody(at least, not since Lilly's death.) Veronica will lie, cheat, manipulate and con whoever she has to to get what she wants, none of which Nancy would ever do(the small deceit or manipulation? Sure. But nothing on Veronica's levels.) But Laura Holt? The woman built a famous detective agency around a con and a fictional boss, and she carried out the con for years, both before and after a "real" con artist wormed his way into her con. Lying, breaking and entering, manipulation...heck, even fraud...they're all acceptable to her if it'll let her run her own life the way she wants...Steele is(initially) just another thing to work and control to meet her goals.
Now Nancy? Could and would never do that? Veronica? Tell the girl she can't do what she wants with her life because she's not a man and put her back in the relative stone age of technology(as she would see it) and she so very much would. In a heartbeat. Probably faster than Laura did.
No, Laura isn't as obviously underhanded and devious as Veronica is and is far more subtle, but it's definately there.
Also, Nancy is all about the boyscouts. Laura and Veronica? Well, they may TELL themselves they like the boyscouts(Veronica a lot more forcefully than Laura) but really, they're all about the bad boys. Even without Logan, there's just this feeling of "wrong" with Veronica/Duncan(even before I started liking LoVe is s1, I was hoping they wouldn't get back together) and I understand it's even worse in that regard with Veronica/Piz. And Laura? Girl had the perfect nice guy right there in Murphy. If she were ever going to fall for a nice guy, it would have been him(poor Murphy...and Bernice...you were both so missed after s1...) and none of the guys who liked her ever stood a chance. If she had ever REALLY wanted to be rid of Steele, she could have been...she's not exactly a stupid woman. But she wanted him there, so he stayed. And, of course, when they DID actually bring in a romantic rival for Steele...well, sure, he sometimes SEEMED to be the nice guy, but really, he was just as sneaky and underhanded as they were. If he hadn't been, he wouldn't have appealed to Laura at all.
(note: I do like Nancy Drew and the old old old Nancy Drew books were one of my first major intros into reading, just....you know...the Nancy/Veronica comparison kinda gets to me...I guess)
Hrm...I am sleepy and have NO idea if all that makes sense...
Yeah, quick check of flist and then bed...
