Me Me Me!

Jan. 3rd, 2008 01:22 pm
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Mostly a quick post about what I read/watch/like/post on/tend to think/views on canon and fandom and the like for newer friends.

What I post on:

Usually I try to keep this LJ fannish/entertainment.  I don't write fic(though there has been a Saiyuki crackfic bouncing around in my head, so one MIGHT show up here one day...don't count on it, though) or do fanart, but I do make icons.  I make icons largely because I find it relaxing, not because I think I'm an artist or entitled or anything like that.  Because of that, they're usually very simple icons, and certainly not the best ones out there.  Though as some can attest, I do do requests.  Mostly though, I post about things I read or watch.  

What I read/watch the most:

*Doramas(live action asian TV shows)
*Anime
*Manga
*Movies
*Fantasy novels
*Comic books

I am an action/history/epic/fantasy/mythology-in-fiction/storytelling meta FIEND who also like mysteries and SciFi, but is rather choosy about both.  Among the properties most often on my brain, whether or not I post on them the most, in no order, are:

*Blade of the immortal(manga)
*Remington Steele(80s TV)
*Saiyuki(anime and manga)
*Samurai Deeper Kyo(manga)
*Stargate SG-1(US TV)
*Dresden Files and Codex Alera by Jim Butcher(novels)
*Bleach(manga, though soon to start watching the anime)
*Basara(manga)
*xXxHoLic(manga)
*Any Chika Shiomi manga
*Wallflower(manga)
*Fruits Basket(manga)
*Avatar(US TV)
*Togari(manga)
*Jason Bourne(movies)
*How much I hate Marvel and am coming to hate DC(comic book publishers) but still give them money, and ranting about what they're doing to my loves/thier properties.
*Princess Tutu(anime-recent development that may or may not last)
*Urban fantasy/paranormal romance(and my frustration with speshul heroines surrounded by hot vampires in particular) in general
*Doramas in general, though I gravitate to wuxia, period Korean and Japanese dramas, and general Japanese dramas.

As you can see, I'm rather anime/manga centric.  It is also possible that I'll start posting on Bollywood soon, but I don't know yet.  I have seen one Bollywood movie, Asoka, and liked it with reservations.  I plan to check out a couple more soon, but don't know yet if it'll take off for me.

Spam:

I spam LJ.  I apologize.  It is often due to my dealing with boredom or annoyance, but also often happens because I see something I want to comment/post on, even if it's only a line or two, and think I'll forget it if I save it for a post with more substance.

Typos:

I make a lot of typos, I apologize for that, too.  I try to catch them, but often don't.  However, while I do make many genuine typos, most "typos" that change one word to another are deliberate(for example, I sometime refers to the Spider-man character Norman Osborn as Normal Osborn, because he's batty as a fruitcake.)  The only unintentional instance of changing one word to another that I know of was when I referred to a hero as being a "bedass" hero when I meant to say "badass."

Memes:

I do memes I think are fun or interesting.  Sometimes I go weeks without seeing an interesting one, sometimes I'm tripping over them.

Friends Only Posts: 

I make very few friends only posts, usually relating to real life(which I don't want RL people to see) or a reaction to a fandom thing or review or whatever that...I don't want anyone else to see.  I expect info in friends only posts to stay that way and not be brought up in comments in other posts.

Canon/Fandom/Slash/etc:

Canon:

I am a canon nazi.  I am drawn to things because of canon, I stay with them because of canon, when I talk aboutthem, I want to talk about canon, or possibilities within canon.    I have no interest in being persuaded to change my views based on anything that isn't  canon(stated or implied within canon) or to bend over sideways and twist canon to make something possible.  I see no point in debating canon.  That said, I don't look down on or disregard people for liking non-canon things...I just don't agree and assume there are plenty of other things we can talk about that we do agree on.  I am also always good for a nice bit of crack, as long as there's no attempting to use it to skew canon.

Slash:

I have no problems with canon slash.  I also have no interest in it.  It bores me.  When I first got into anime and manga, most other female fans I knew then told me it was more interesting.  I tried out a few yaoi they recommended and the furthest I got into one was about a volume and a half.  As near as I can tell, it only works if you find m/m(or f/f, the rare occassions it pops up) inherently interesting.  I don't.  There are a fair number of things I have enjoyed(such as xXxHoLic, one of my current favorite manga-AND I AM ONLY ON VOLUME SEVEN, SO SPOIL ME-beyond non-specific crack/angst teases-AND DIE!!!, or, if you want Saiyuki, though what is and isn't canon there could be debated for months) that have slash subtext, but the more a focus it is, the less interest I have.  That said, I also have little tolerance for m/f where there's no point but the romance, so really, I just like more to my stories than romance...I am a plot/action/character development girl.  But my general lack of interest in slash makes my tolerance level for slash-specific stuff fairly low.

That said...that is CANON SLASH.  I have no interest in or tolerance for fanon slash, esp. since the principles involved are almost always straight, either one or both, and one almost ALWAYS has a canon pairing, meaning that you have to butcher, ignore, or twist the canon relationship and/or female character to make it work.  No thank you.

Fandom:

To be honest, fandoms in general scare me.  The first fandom I ever got into was the Magnificent Seven TV show.  Of the 8 main characters, one was female.  As I'm sure you can imagine, most of the fandom was all about the slash and how dare this woman be around all our hot guys and bending over backwards to find faults with her.  Future forays haven't fared any better.  In addition, most of my fandom experience involves seeing people bend over backwards and look sideways to explain how something is or isn't canon, and then just this...mass agreement if it fits what people want, as opposed to what it actually is.  I skirt the edges of various fandoms, looking for people to friend or info, but that's it.

Besides...ever try being a het and gen fan who sticks to canon in most online fandoms?   I have yet to find an online fandom I'd like to be a part of where I wouldn't be in the vast minority.  From an outsider's view, most fandoms are slash and non-canon shipping centric, and gen seems to be largely ignored.

Fanfic:

Here's the thing...I actually like canon based het and gen fic...but have you ever tried finding canon based het and gen fanfic?  Ever try finding het or gen fanfic for Samurai Deeper Kyo that isn't alternashipping or some AU high school thing?  Most people think I deliberately look for bad fic, which isn't true(ok, occassionally I do if I want laughs or the chance to mock...but on those occassions I go into things that I know only attract badfic...like Eragon)  Most badfic I just stumble across, looking for something good.  The thing is that it's very, very hard to find good het and gen fic(without canon being ignored or AUs.)  Everytime I think I find a good one...I haven't.  Every once in a while I'll find a nice, short crack fic or a gen drabble, but that's it.  As a result, I rarely ever bother anymore.

All that said:  I don't care if people like slash, are all about the crack, etc.  I also don't care(or generally mind) if they want to talk to be about it, and I read such posts and often find them interesting(well, not the fic, but...)  Just don't try to sway me to wishfulling viewpoints that aren't based on canon, convince me that I'm wrong to like canon, that I should like slash, etc.  Basically, respect me and I'll respect you(which does not remotely translate as "you must always agree with me and like/hate the characters I like/hate), and accept that canon is canon(in my LJ...do whatever you want in yours and I'll still read it.)


Also, you will find that I have many easily catered to kinks and weaknesses, wear them on my sleeves, and they're easy to exploit.  People do so regularly.  "Swords" and "crack" often being the easiest to exploit.  Also "badass characters" and certain canon pairing types.

Date: 2008-01-03 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
I don't get it either, canon or otherwise(otherwise especially...if you don't like canon, I don't see why you bother with it.) I mean, sure, I tend to get caught up in canon pairings, but they're almost never the main draw, and extremely rarely are they what keeps me coming back. What about non-romantic relationships? Character growth? plot? Crack? You know, good stuff...why must fandom so exclusively focus on pairings?

I do read romance novels...when I don't want to think or care.

Date: 2008-01-03 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com
WHY DO YOU INSIST PLOT GET IN THE WAY OF SHIPS, HUH?

Someone on my f-list actually asked me why I read fic, if I wasn't interested in the pairings. Er ... radical idea, for the entire rest of the story?

Date: 2008-01-03 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bzoppa.livejournal.com
hahahaha...

that's.. just awesome.

Date: 2008-01-03 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com
Wacky idea, I know, that maybe good writing isn't actually dependent on the pairings. Ah well, I shall remain happily misguided over here in my box. XD

Date: 2008-01-03 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Is there room for one more in your box?

Date: 2008-01-03 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com
We can duct-tape another box to mine. Maybe we'll find enough people to create a hamster-trail!

Date: 2008-01-03 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
ooo...hamster trail...

Date: 2008-01-03 09:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chomiji


I guess I should deep-six "A Real Adventurer," then, even though it's generated the largest number of positive comments of anything I've written!



XD


Date: 2008-01-03 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com
Well, y'know, once you start writing real fic about pairings, you'll get way more popular.




I was sort of hoping when I posted "Case Report" to the Bleach comm that someone would get snitty at me for not listing the pairings involved so I could blast 'em good and hard. Unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately, nobody bit.

Date: 2008-01-03 10:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chomiji


Well, a person (including the present writer) actually had to think to understand and appreciate "Case Report," so that probably chased away all the brain-dead before they got into the question of pairings ... .


Date: 2008-01-03 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
That is very true. Reading it required a functioning brain, thus alienating 80% of the potential readers...leaving only those who understand the love of non-pairing fic.

Date: 2008-01-04 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com
I figured they'd complain just reading the "Fandom/Title/Wordcount" bit I put in the post. XD

(It was a couple of weeks after a new Bleach fangirl was asking for recs for good fics, and someone explained that if she told the comm what her favorite pairings were they could, but it would be kind of hard otherwise. I, naturally, commented and gave her plenty of recs for good fics without needing to know her pairing faves.)

Date: 2008-01-04 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
I remember that complaint...

Date: 2008-01-03 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
*notes that it's the only Saiyuki fic she's ever read*

Date: 2008-01-03 10:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chomiji


>feels warm 'n' fuzzy<




Date: 2008-01-03 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Uhm...yeah. much as I'd like to find decent fic for my various canon ships, I'm much more interested in gen fic(with, uhm, one notable exception...that no one wants to indulge me on...well, decent fic, at least) than pairing fic, even if I like the pairing. It's just...more interesting.

Date: 2008-01-03 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com
For me, good writing trumps everything, and I'll be happy to read just about whatever cracktastic pairing someone comes up with,* if the writing is good enough. But except in certain cases**, I want more than just the relationship to be the focal point of the story.



* Kenpachi/Byakuya and the Kenpachi/Grimmjow one you mentioned just give me the wibbles. And Kenpachi/Yachiru SQUICKS ME THE HELL OUT.

** The two main ones being the cracked-out Renji/Hanatarou one someone recced to me a while back, which was written on a dare, and things focusing on relationships I find interesting in canon, like the Ichimaru/Matsumoto one that was recced to me a while back also.

Date: 2008-01-03 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
I actually might be interesting in Ichimaru/Matsumoto, as their canon has me curious.

But yes...it's all about the writing...both in the original fiction and the fanfic. And the characterization.

...

THERE IS KENPACHI/BYAKUYA????? *scarred...not as much as Kenpachi/Grimmjow, but...*

Date: 2008-01-03 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com
THERE IS KENPACHI/BYAKUYA.

BE AFRAID.

BE VERY AFRAID.

And not only is there plenty Kenpachi/Byakuya fic, which I keep accidentally running into (http://www.fanfiction.net/anime/Bleach/10/0/1/1/0/3661/3671/0/0/1/) when looking for good Division 11 fics (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3355733/1/Parenting_Made_Easy_with_Zaraki_Kenpachi), one of the omakes after the credits in one of the recent episodes of Bleach apparently mentions it for comedic effect. I haven't seen that yet, just saw some shipper's "OMG IT'S CANON NOW!" crowing somewhere online.

Date: 2008-01-03 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
*curls in a corner and cries*

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Date: 2008-01-04 02:42 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] smillaraaq.livejournal.com
I was the deranged someone reccing the Renji/Hanatarou piece! *waves and giggles* A friend grabbed me and forced me to read it even though I don't follow Bleach very much, and it amused me so greatly that I have been sharing the love crack at every possible opportunity. XD

Date: 2008-01-04 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Not following Bleach makes Yachiro cry. You don't want to make Yachiro cry.

Date: 2008-01-04 03:17 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] smillaraaq.livejournal.com
That would probably be a more effective guilt-trip if I even knew who Yachiro was...

Bleach is one of those things that I'll watch when it's on, but has never quite managed to click with me for some reason. I like Rukia quite a bit, but there's that whole arc in whatever-season-it-is where she's off being held captive, so no fun there; and Ichigo just sort of annoys me.

(Also, Renji is wearing far too many clothes. Heavily-tattooed long-haired swordfighting redheads should be REQUIRED BY LAW to at least give one shirtless fanservice moment per episode. Preferably while fighting.)

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Date: 2008-01-04 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com
SO IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT!! XD

Date: 2008-01-04 03:12 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] smillaraaq.livejournal.com
I get that reaction a lot. ;)

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