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Gundam Wing is a part of the super duper extra massive Gundam franchise.  I know little about the franchise as a whole except the it has 100 or so series, and it'a all mecha.

Now, to be blunt:  I don't like mecha.  I think it's ugly.  It holds no appeal to me.  I do not understand why it's massively popular.  The only mecha I have ever liked is the mecha in Samurai Seven, where the mecha exists to get chopped up by men with swords.  Outside of that, I occassionally tolerate the mecha as a necessary evil in something I otherise enjoy.

The general plot of Gundam Wing is as follows: 200~ years in the future.  Space colonies are being repressed by Earth, and as a rebellion, they send 5 teenaged boys with mecha to take out the evil government and fight the evil mecha with their superior mecha.

Clearly, I was not sold on this for the plot.

No.  I was sold because I was promised clinically insane, suicidal, emo angstmuffin badass pilots who like to try to blow themselves and other people up.

Like our hero, Heero(well, he seems to marginally be the lead).  He started the series off by trying to blow himself and his mecha up.  Then, when he realized he survived, he tried to activate his suit's self destruct sequence, but it didn't work.  Then, for some bizarre reason, he enrolled himself in high school and announced to his classmate, relena(more on her coming) that he wasgoing to kill her.  Then he tried to destroy his gundam AGAIN and ended up floating facedown in the water.  Then he was put in a military hospital and was busy making himself bleed all over to get free and kill himself when he was rescued by Duo(more later).  Then, for some reason, he didn't eject his parachute when he and Duo jumped off a very high place, and after he did, he decided to release it and just bounce down the cliff face.  Unfortunately for him, he seems to be immortal.

Then there's Duo.  As compared to everyone else in the series so far, he seems rather nice and cheerful and sane.  Please note the "as compared to everyone else in the series so far" part.  So far he has rescued the crazy girl from the crazy boy and gotten chewed out for it, rescued the crazy boy and received no thanks, and generally been cool.  He also seems to spend a lot of time talking about how he can't take much more of heero's insane suicidal emo(and yes, he regularly refers to Heero as suicidal.)  Naturaly, he is my favorite.

I haven't got much of a feel for the other characters, yet.  Quatre is a sweet seeming blond, but I'm not sure he's very bright.  He seems to be bonding with Trowa, who has utterly lethal bangs.  At first I though Trowa was kinda cool and analytical, but I suspect now that he was just reciting a manual he read when I thought that.  There's also Wu Fei, who hasn't done much except manage to be stoically insanely badass to military guys.  He has a braid so tight, it has to be giving him a migraine.

And those are the pilots.

On the other side, there's Zechs.  Zechs(and yes, it's pronounced the way it looks) is a commander on the other side.  He seems rather arrogant and overly proud of his mecha.  I don't have a lot of opinion on him yet, but suspect he's one  of those who will end up not really bad in the end.  And he has a funny helmet.  Zechs is the pet subordinate of Trieze, who is also very arrogant and probably the main bad guy. Zechs has a friend-ex-something named Noin, who seems to be pretty cool and supposedly trains ace mecha pilots.

And then...there is Relena.  Relena moves, acts and talks rather like a robot.  But one with faulty programming.  After her father comments on the fact that it will be her birthday soon, she goes off on her own and asks why he doesn't realize it's her birthday soon, then comments that regular girls would probably make a big deal about it.  She then finds a crazy boy(Heero) unconscious on the beach and calls an ambulance.  While this seems to be normal behavior, the boy then tries to blow himself up, beats up the medics, and steals the ambulance.  Her response was to hold out her hand and introduce herself to the empty air.  This firmly convinced me that she was a robot, and that a programming malfunction did not process that he did not introduce himself as humans are supposed to do.

When Relena sees the crazy boy who tried to blow himself up at school the next day, Relena invites him to her birthday party.  His response is to tear up the invitation and say "I'll kill you."  I believe Relena's malfunctioning programming interpretted this as "I like you, let's go out."  This is reinforced by Relena's worrying when Heero does not show up at her party, then going off to find him, and then chewing Duo out when Duo stops Heero from shooting her point blank in the head.  Yes, she yelled at the nice boy who saved her from the crazy boy.  Later, Relena dramatically stood on a cliff and shouted "Come back and kill me, Heero!" As this took place while Heero was busy plummetting to his death, and that as she yelled it, he opened his eyes and released his parachute, I assume this means they are the main canon pairing.  I am well schooled to such clues.

I know fear.

As the end credits are nothing but Relena, we are clearly expected to madly love her.



Here is 

[personal profile] rachelmanija's "gundam wing" tag.  These are the posts that made me want to watch.

Note:  to my knowledge, Relena is not canonically a robot with faulty programming.  But thinking of her as such explains ever so much...

 

 

Date: 2008-01-04 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magicnoire.livejournal.com
Hahahahaha! GW premiered on Cartoon Network when I was in college. I remember how my friend and I used to watch it together in stunned, silent awe.

Later, Relena dramatically stood on a cliff and shouted "Come back and kill me, Heero!" As this took place while Heero was busy plummetting to his death, and that as she yelled it, he opened his eyes and released his parachute, I assume this means they are the main canon pairing. I am well schooled to such clues.

But only in Japan!

Date: 2008-01-04 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
heh...yeah...the clues are most prominent in anime, manga and dramas...mostly, I suspect, to clue us in without gushy declarations of love.

I feel there will be much staring in awe on my part.

Date: 2008-01-04 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crumpeteer.livejournal.com
And Relena only gets more insane as the series goes on. I'm starting to think Heero's suicide attempts have something to do with knowing who his OTP is.

Heero: Oh sweet release of death, I've found you!
Relena: HEEEEROOOOO!
Heero: *frantically pushes self detonation button*
Relena: HEEEEEEEROOOOOOOO!
Heero: *takes a swan dive down the cliff*
Relena: I'LL NEVER LEAVE YOU HEEEEEEEERRRRRROOOOOOOOOO!
Heero: *tries to shoot Relena*
Relena: You DO love me, HEEROOOOOO!
Heero: Oh, screw it.
Duo: Yeah, I know buddy, I know.

Date: 2008-01-04 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
You realize, of course, that you could completely convince me that this is actual dialogue from the show, right?

...

Is it?

Date: 2008-01-04 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kingcrankycat.livejournal.com
As long as you use liberal ellipses, it's extremely close.

Well, most of the time...

Date: 2008-01-04 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danavalkyrie.livejournal.com
Relina: Hero! Heerrrooo! Heeerrrooooo! (the most commonly used phrase of Relina)

Hero: Relina! I'll Kill you... (most commonly used Phrase of Hero)

I dont get Him, when Relina was "imprisoned by her brother Millardo (zechs) in the pink room of space fortress Libra, he went on to rescue her, and ofcourse, Relina goes mushy about it when instead of saying to her "I'll Kill you" it changes to "I'll Protect you", hehehe.

Re: Well, most of the time...

Date: 2008-01-04 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
uhm...
SUPER DUPER AXTREMELY MASSIVE SPOILER

Date: 2008-04-27 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com
I think I've just read Gundam Wing in Five Minutes.

Date: 2008-01-04 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kingcrankycat.livejournal.com
Unfortunately for him, he seems to be immortal.
Even bigger explosions (not all of them self-inflicted) will reinforce this idea.

Quatre is a sweet seeming blond, but I'm not sure he's very bright.
No, he's not too bright, but next to Duo he's the most sane of the bunch (for most of the series, anyway), and that counts for a bit.

And he has a funny helmet
The funny helmet character has a long and storied history in the Gundam verse, going all the way back to Char(?) from the first series. They always turn out to be some of the most popular characters in their respective series. He's also designed as a total bishonen (including sparkles!) but they cover it up with the mask for most of the series.

Your section on Heero is probably the best description of the first part of the series that I've seen thus far.

Date: 2008-01-04 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Well, the eps are all about him being insane and wanting to kill himself...and Relena apparently loving him because he wants to kill her...

Date: 2008-01-04 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com
Quatre and Trowa get more screentime later. I love them. You do not want to be spoiled for their upcoming storylines, as they are even more fantastic when they come as a surprise.

I had theorized that Relena has low-level psychic powers which make people react oddly to her (as in, not locking her up), but I like your theory better.

Date: 2008-01-04 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Do Trowa's bangs ever get used as a weapon? That's what I'd like to know.

I'm rather fond of my theory myself. It has potential. And explains ever so much.

BTW, are suicide pilot icons yoinkable somewhere?

Date: 2008-01-04 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com
You can join the Gundam Suicide Club, but I think you'll have to make your own from suitable bases.

By the way, you ought to warn people not to spoil you if you don't want to be spoiled (and you don't, believe me.) I've noticed a lackadaisical attitude about spoilers for older shows.

Date: 2008-01-04 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
The only thing that's been a danger so far has been the Zechs/Noin convo in another post...I just start "LALALALALA"-ing when spoilers start(did the same with Avatar when i was watching season 1)

Well, I've received spoilers for another Gundam series, but since I don't like mecha, I doubt I'll check any more out. If I do...well...I'm pretty good at expunging spoilers I received before starting to read/watch something from my brain once I get started.

Date: 2008-01-04 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sanada.livejournal.com
Oh Gundam Wing... >.>;;; I admit I watched it solely because Japanese fandom lead me to believe it was not actually mecha, but gay porn. And one of my favorite actors ever plays Zechs. But then I watched it and thought "damn, Relena is one crazy bitch." She's probably the second most irritating Gundam heroine that I've seen. Gundam Wing is a classic, but I think the newer incarnations are somewhat more sophisticated... or at least they don't make the Arab characters pale and blonde anymore. (seriously, wtf, Quatre?)

My favorite Gundam series are probably Turn-A Gundam (because it has relatively few giant robot battles and lots of the naked hermaphrodite hero being adorable) and Gundam 00 (which is airing right now... you think the pilots in Wing were crazy? In 00, they keep one of them in a rubber room... and he's the sweet one, which tells you how deeply deranged everyone else is). But if you don't mind a few giant robots here and there, then I'd recommend Code Geass - it's a wonderful combination of Gundam, Death Note, and Revolutionary Girl Utena. o__O;;;;

Date: 2008-01-04 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
...

Quatre's an Arab?

They come crazier than Relena?

Date: 2008-01-04 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sanada.livejournal.com
>__>;; Yup. The fandom will try any way to rationalise this fact, but this is Gundam. This is Japan. I was shocked when in Gundam 00, they appeared to know where the Middle East was located. *facepalm*

Ooooooh yeah. In Gundam Seed, there's Flay. She starts out bigoted towards genetically altered people, and she treats her adoring boyfriend like shit. When her father gets died, she blames one of the heroes, Kira, because he's an icky horrible genetically altered person. That's when Flay begins her evil, crazy plan to seduce Kira - and Kira isn't exactly mentally stable, so it isn't long before he's in bed with her. She takes advantage of him to keep him from having normal relationships and to manipulate him into killing more people to satisfy her prejudice... until he starts macking on his own twin sister. Flay gets jealous and they break up, so she goes running back to her ex-boyfriend so she can manipulate him for a while. The only good thing about Flay is that she dies - and by that time, you wish you could have pulled the trigger yourself.

Date: 2008-01-04 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
I feel i now fear that one too much to ever go near it.

Date: 2008-01-04 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sanada.livejournal.com
Well... Seed isn't bad overall, but Gundam has never been very good with the romance. They either make the "main love interest" completely unlikable, or they squeeze in totally random romance so everyone can be paired up. There are always fascinating group dynamics with the male characters and to non-love-interest female characters, but as soon as the main canon romance gets going... it's worse than bad shoujo. But it's actually kind of fun to have a character that you can hate with the security that she's not going to end up with the hero in the end.

Date: 2008-01-04 05:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] southerndave.livejournal.com
/me has lost count of the number of Japanese (or, at least, Generic Human Therefore Probably Japanese) characters in anime who don't have the usual black hair...

Date: 2008-01-04 05:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Yes. Butthis is an Arab named Quatre with very pale skin and blond hair.

Date: 2008-01-04 06:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
My theory is he's a french double agent.

Date: 2008-01-04 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilac-breeze.livejournal.com
Ah, Gundam Wing. It's been so very long. Duo is my favorite character, by far - he's just such an adorable goofball, how can you not love him?

I am very, very amused by your reasoning that Relena is a malfunctioning robot. XD

Date: 2008-01-04 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
SHE IS! SHE TOTALLY IS! IT ALL MAKES SENSE THAT WAY!

I suspect I'll want my own Duo before long.

Date: 2008-01-04 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foenix.livejournal.com
Heeey, anime I've actually seen!

Date: 2008-01-04 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
An anime I could talk to you about?

THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END!!! THE APOCALYPSE IS NIGH!!!

Date: 2008-01-04 05:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] southerndave.livejournal.com
Funnily enough... reading Megs' opinion of mecha reminded me of nothing else so much as it reminded me of your opinion of anime/manga in general...

Date: 2008-01-04 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
This is the funniest thing I've ever read. I had to read this out loud to Mr. Mousie, in fact.

Date: 2008-01-04 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Heh. I reread it, cringed at a few typos, and giggled myself.

I simply relate things as my awed brain understood them.

I hope Mr. Mousie was suitably amused.

Date: 2008-01-04 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Mr. Mousie LOLed,

I am watching first ep of GW now and LOLing.

Date: 2008-01-04 04:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Crunchy roll? I suspect Mr. Mousie would like it. How many times has Heero tried to blow himself up?

Date: 2008-01-04 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
youtube.

heero clearly wants to break a record.

Date: 2008-01-04 04:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
By ep 4, I think he has. And I'm told he only gets more desperate(there's a theory raised in one of my posts that it's because he knows who his OTP is and views it as a threat worse than death)

Date: 2008-01-04 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitkat-cat.livejournal.com
er, i'm completely showing my general ignorance...but what is mecha?

Date: 2008-01-04 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Giant robot combat suits.

Date: 2008-01-04 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fenrir-khan.livejournal.com
ROFLMAO!!!

*Here through Dangermousie*

I want to take this post to the prom. Seriously, I may or may not have already bought the corsage...

Date: 2008-01-04 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Don't forget, it has equally cracktastic little brothers.

I half wonder if mousie is considering leaving Mr. Mousie for these posts, the way she's been going on.

Date: 2008-01-04 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fenrir-khan.livejournal.com
Don't forget, it has equally cracktastic little brothers.

Oh, I went. I saw. I cracked up.

I half wonder if mousie is considering leaving Mr. Mousie for these posts, the way she's been going on.

Heyyyyyy! I have dibs on these posts. I'm taking them to prom for God's sake! And I fully plan to impregnate them afterwards---... Um, yeah, there is such a thing as taking a metaphore too far. XD

Anyway, keep up the good work with the recaps. The stroll down memory lane makes me happy.

Date: 2008-01-04 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Heyyyyyy! I have dibs on these posts. I'm taking them to prom for God's sake! And I fully plan to impregnate them afterwards---... Um, yeah, there is such a thing as taking a metaphore too far. XD

BUT SHE SAW THEM FIRST! AND INTRODUCED YOU!

And for metaphor...well, it IS GW...

Date: 2008-01-04 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fenrir-khan.livejournal.com
BUT SHE SAW THEM FIRST! AND INTRODUCED YOU!

Right. Eloping would kinda be like backstabbing her 'daytime-drama-starring-Jack-Wagner'-style. And then, who would introduce me to awesome stuff, uh?

Date: 2008-01-04 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Exactly.

Or any daytime drama, really...

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