The Great Cassie Edwards Scandal
Jan. 15th, 2008 12:56 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
For those not familiar with what I'm referring to: Cassie Edwards is a romance author who writes rather bad Native American romances with titles like Savage Longings, Savage Beloved, Savage Moon and Savage Dream. I am not ashamed to admit I read a few in high school. The reason I am not ashamed to admit it is because they're one of the main things that got me to realize that popular and good were not synonymous, and that thinking a book others loved was bad was a problem with the book, not with me. Because of her, bad native american romances are my limit.* Well, that and things like rape, alpha male pressuring the doormat into submission, abuse and other squick and annoyance factors. Oh, and boredom. You can be great or awful and not hit hot buttons and I'll read, but the second you start to bore, we're done.
Anyway, recently, one of the lovely ladies at Smart Bitches, Trashy Books recently sat down with some of her books with a friend, who reading them, noticed that some of the passages didn't fit with the rest of the prose. With a few minutes in google, they discovered that they were directly lifted and minimally paraphrased from various sources without credit. According to
crumpeteer, apparently she even plagiarized one of her author's notes.
Here is the introductory post.
Here is a document with comparisons between the original texts and Edwards's books.
Here is a link to an article containing Edwards's response, which includes this gem: [Edwards] acknowledged that she sometimes “takes” her material “from reference books,” but added that she didn’t know she was supposed to credit her sources.
Here is a letter posted to myspace, allegedly by Edwards. I'm fond of this part: The sad thing is that I am writing these books now in a way to honor our Native Americans, past, present and in the future. And I am honoring my great grandmother who was a full blood Cheyenne. She would be so proud of me if she could read what I am writing about the Indians who have been so maligned for so long. And do you know? I feel picked on now as our Native American Indians have always been picked on throughout history. I am trying to spread the word about them and what do I get? Spiteful women who have found a way to bring attention to themselves, by getting in the media in this horrible way.
There are several other articles at the site, and I think they're adding as more come out.
ETA: I forgot to mention: the best part of the plagiarism is that the copied texts are used as DIALOGUE. Yes, academic and research texts are, word for word, used as dialogue. No wonder the dialogue was awful. Also, interesting links in comments. Scroll down to
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*That and vampires who sparkle in the sun and willingly attend highschool over and over. I'm sorry, I tried to give Twilight a chance and at least read the first chapter in Hastings, but I just couldn't.
Anyway, recently, one of the lovely ladies at Smart Bitches, Trashy Books recently sat down with some of her books with a friend, who reading them, noticed that some of the passages didn't fit with the rest of the prose. With a few minutes in google, they discovered that they were directly lifted and minimally paraphrased from various sources without credit. According to
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Here is the introductory post.
Here is a document with comparisons between the original texts and Edwards's books.
Here is a link to an article containing Edwards's response, which includes this gem: [Edwards] acknowledged that she sometimes “takes” her material “from reference books,” but added that she didn’t know she was supposed to credit her sources.
Here is a letter posted to myspace, allegedly by Edwards. I'm fond of this part: The sad thing is that I am writing these books now in a way to honor our Native Americans, past, present and in the future. And I am honoring my great grandmother who was a full blood Cheyenne. She would be so proud of me if she could read what I am writing about the Indians who have been so maligned for so long. And do you know? I feel picked on now as our Native American Indians have always been picked on throughout history. I am trying to spread the word about them and what do I get? Spiteful women who have found a way to bring attention to themselves, by getting in the media in this horrible way.
There are several other articles at the site, and I think they're adding as more come out.
ETA: I forgot to mention: the best part of the plagiarism is that the copied texts are used as DIALOGUE. Yes, academic and research texts are, word for word, used as dialogue. No wonder the dialogue was awful. Also, interesting links in comments. Scroll down to
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*That and vampires who sparkle in the sun and willingly attend highschool over and over. I'm sorry, I tried to give Twilight a chance and at least read the first chapter in Hastings, but I just couldn't.
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Date: 2008-01-15 07:06 pm (UTC)Yeah. 'Cause accusations of plagiarism are equivalent to, say, genocide. *twitch*
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Date: 2008-01-15 07:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-01-15 11:36 pm (UTC)...and if they're female, admire the glorious wang.
*sniff* Topsoil? (http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/how-to-write-the-great-american-indian-novel/)
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Date: 2008-01-15 07:18 pm (UTC)*rolls in the martyrdom*
So funny I can't even get offended.
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Date: 2008-01-15 07:29 pm (UTC)http://meljeanbrook.com/blog/archives/490
By the way I really like the two novels of hers I've read so far, didn't much like the short story. Am eagerly awaiting the third novel.
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Date: 2008-01-15 07:29 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2008-01-15 07:31 pm (UTC)However, I'm caught again by the sparkly vampires. They willingly go to high school over and over? You neglected to mention that part before, and I'm horrified. That's just... not realistic. I think even people who peaked in high school wouldn't want to go back.
I'm reminded of a really bad straight-to-video horror movie I watched about a fraternity-deal that turned out to be a bunch of immortal guys partying at a small liberal arts college for decades.
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Date: 2008-01-15 07:35 pm (UTC)And yes, from what I'm told, the vampires willingly go to school over and over. I like the crack and cheese to mock in vampire romances, but I just can't go there. Or to the sparkly vampires.
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Date: 2008-01-15 08:56 pm (UTC)"Oh honey, I have been won over to the cause of the Native Americans by the power of your Mighty Wang, let's academically discuss these cute little animals, sounding like we're quoting from a textbook."
"Why yes, my Formerly Misled White Woman who has been saved from prejudice and racism and who is abandoning civilization because my Mighty Wang is far mightier than that of any white man's, let us clunkily quote from a textbook and woo each other with dialogue no normal human would be caught dead using outside a lecture."
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Date: 2008-01-15 09:44 pm (UTC)That's right, I'm gonna honor my great grandmother by stealing other people's hard work in her name!
> sigh! <
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Date: 2008-01-15 10:18 pm (UTC)And you forgot the racist button.
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Date: 2008-01-15 11:53 pm (UTC)And then I recently met via LiveJournal a bunch of other Native gals who happened to be avid romance readers -- and CE kept coming up in a discussion of the worst of the worst among all the offensive Indian romances; bad as I'd thought these things looked just from the covers and titles (sorry, Cassie, "savage" is NOT a compliment!), folks who'd actually suffered through reading some of them assured me the contents were a million times worse. Reading through all of their descriptions, and searing my retinas browsing through some of CE's cover galleries, was enough to burn that name onto my brain...enough so to remember it and cackle gleefully when I saw this break on Smart Bitches and then Fandom Wank. Once a thief...
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Date: 2008-01-16 12:00 am (UTC)But yes, her books are far, far from the best thing to honor native americans with...more like the opposite end of the spectrum.
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Date: 2008-01-16 12:40 am (UTC)As I said before... "I mean, if you're going to allow your mother to say 'fuck it' to her parental responsibilities, at least own it, you know? Don't act like moving is some horrible unavoidable tragedy. Also, did the author actually expect me to believe in a romance between a vampire and a chick who can't stand just the smell of blood? I think that was the point I laid the book down in disgust. "
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