The Tudors

Feb. 4th, 2008 09:57 pm
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I was very interested in the show when it first came out, then forgot about it. Probably because it's one of those half-season series or something so people weren't posting on it for very long. While my main interest in the family is Elizabeth I, who I view as almost the most awesome person ever born(a few biblical people trump her) I have a general interest in the period. Like most historical periods that interest me, I know enough that I can sigh over some blatantly wrong things, but won't throw popcorn at historical inaccuracies. Things that go against the behavioral and social mores of the time tend to stick in my craw more than who married who in what year or what day a battle was fought on, barring extremely major things(like, you know, if someone decided it would suit their story better for The Battle of Hastings to take place in the spring of 1066 and that Harold didn't die in the battle, just got a bad boo-boo...)

Anyway, it's on DVD now...

[Poll #1133181]

Date: 2008-02-05 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crumpeteer.livejournal.com
Historically, I've always hated Henry. If anyone has ever deserved a good beat down it would be him.

Date: 2008-02-05 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
I didn't like him before the series and I hated him even more after I saw it.

Date: 2008-02-05 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Does anyone actually liked him? I think Elizabeth is his sole redeeming quality...

(MSN later?)

Date: 2008-02-05 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
Well, I'm one not that fond of Elizabeth given the number she did on Ireland....

(I should be on in about an hour. Will you be around?)

Date: 2008-02-05 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
A very valid point. Yet, from a 100% outside view, just further proof of her badass.

(I shall be on a little over an hour from now.)

Date: 2008-02-05 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Actually, he needed a dozen beatdoens. With razor tipped whips.

Date: 2008-02-05 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
The Tudors (despite the immense amounts of pretty people) is only to be watched if you like endless scenes of Henry asking Cardinal Wolsey if he has his divorce yet. In the end I wanted it to be completely ahistorical and have Catherine of Aragon run off with Thomas More and have babies in a utopia they established in the new world.

IN MY MIND IT TOTALLY HAPPENED.

Date: 2008-02-05 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
This is a very interesting AU. I suspect all would have been happier that way.

Date: 2008-02-05 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitsune714.livejournal.com
The Tudors is total historical porn. Inaccurate, maybe. But pretty? Cheesy? Guilty pleasure? Yes, yes, and yes.

Date: 2008-02-05 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Exactly how "historical porn" are we talking?

Date: 2008-02-05 12:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitsune714.livejournal.com
You know, Henry VIII being all randomly sweaty and shirtless for no good reason, people sexing it up without prelude, that sort of thing. Showtime thinks that the only way we'll watch a program set this far back in time is if people are naked in it.

Date: 2008-02-05 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Just like HBO, it seems...

Date: 2008-02-05 04:49 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] morwen_peredhil
It's a history-raping soap opera, notable mostly for heaving bosoms and scenery chewing.

I watched mainly for Jeremy Northam's Sir Thomas More. If only he weren't going to get dead. (Of course, on this show there's always a possibility he might not, because it's just that history-defiling.)

Date: 2008-02-05 05:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
...

*did not know about Jeremy Northam*

Date: 2008-02-05 06:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
He will run off with Catherine and have babies in their utopia in the colonies! They must! They are the only two decent people in the show.

Date: 2008-02-05 05:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oxymoronassoc.livejournal.com
THEY ARE PRETTY AND NAKED. THAT IS MY INPUT.

Date: 2008-02-05 05:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Can they act?

Do we see the HBO-rated parts(obsession with showing all has turned me off every HBO show I've tried)?

Do they at least occassionally fake a plot?

Date: 2008-02-05 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laura-holt-pi.livejournal.com
I haven't seen it, but I've heard nothing good about it. I would highly recommend some older Tudor-related TV, such as "The Six Wives of Henry VIII" and "Elizabeth R". I rather resent seeing my country's history mangled to turn it into some kind of soap.

Elizabeth, bless her, had her faults, but she was twice the man her father was.

Date: 2008-02-05 05:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Elizabeth was twice the man as pretty much any man of the time. And most others.

Date: 2008-02-05 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laura-holt-pi.livejournal.com
By the way, I don't know if your interest in history includes the English Civil War, but if it does, there was an excellent series in the 80s called By The Sword Divided. You can get some idea of it from this songvid I did to a Cavalier song: http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/Neneithel/?action=view¤t=WhentheKingComesHome.flv

It's about the Lacey family, who live in Arnescote castle. Just before the war begins, the eldest daughter marries a Parliamentarian. She takes on her husband's loyalties while her family remain staunchly Royalist. You would strongly approve of her younger sister, Lucinda, who is courageous, intelligent and endlessly resourceful. She begins as a slightly petulant 15 year old and ends up a very strong woman. Another great character is the old herbwife, Minty, whose sharp tongue often gets her into trouble.

Date: 2008-02-05 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
I have at least some degree of interest in almost any history(part of why I'm no expert on any one bit...too busy with bits of every bit)

Has that series been put on DVD?

Date: 2008-02-05 05:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laura-holt-pi.livejournal.com
Yes. We got the DVDs last year from Amazon. The picture quality on the second of the two seasons is far better, but the scripting and acting is wonderful in both.

Date: 2008-02-05 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bzoppa.livejournal.com
I tried watching it one late night after getting home. I love me some Jeremy Northam (well, kinda) and Sam Neill (about equally kinda). The first few minutes were boring as hell but was also not too sober.

My intention to watch a historical drama in place of Rome failed miserably in the face of my dislike for Jonathan Rhys-Meyers.

I've also not heard OMG MUST WATCH from many quarters.

Date: 2008-02-05 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
*sigh*

Sam Neill, too.

Why must it have actors I don't stumble across enough to suit me?

Date: 2008-02-05 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bzoppa.livejournal.com
As in, you don't have much history with Sam Neill so aren't interested? Or you don't run across him enough that it intrigues you and you'd like to see him?

Date: 2008-02-05 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
As in "I like him, but he never seems to be in things I want to see."

Date: 2008-02-05 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fenrir-khan.livejournal.com
One word...um, no, three: Jonathan Rhys Meyer.

I need not say more.

Date: 2008-02-05 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laura-holt-pi.livejournal.com
Just thought I'd mention that a little-known, but persistent piece of folklore says that Harold DID escape the Battle of Hastings and lived disguised as a monk/hermit having supplies brought to him by his wife.

I don't know whether it's true, but it's surprising how often these things are.

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