the break from fandom, it is not going so well...

[meganbmoore]

Ok, seriously, how can women NOT be interested in women in fiction, or view them as irrelevant, or only there to complement the guys?  I mean, seriously, HOW???

I don't mean liking every female character ever, or always being more interested in the female, I just mean approaching fiction with the idea that the female is less important than the male.

It seems to me that it should be the reverse...but then again, I shouldn't be surprised, as so much of fandom revolves around the ideathat it's good or more interesting to take the role of the female and give it to a male instead(yes, if you slash a canonically, heterosexually paired character with another male, you ARE robbing the female of part of her role in the story and giving it to a male.  Period.)

No, I do not dislike you or not respect you or automatically think less of you if you aren't interested in female characters or slash canonically paired males(the f-list would be much smaller if I did.)  But I also can't remotely with your viewpoint when you're coming at something with either one.

(ok, I must ask:  is there something in the world's water supply the last few weeks?  I keep seeing more and more rants...not that I'm one to talk.) 

ETA: No, not directed at anyone specifically (I don't post rants directed to specific people if I know them) but on comments in various rants I've read the last week or so.

Comments

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Is this directed at me? *watches own big ego*

I am not uninterested in women in fiction, and prefer a story to have a strong female heroine, but I don't find it necessary. Maybe because I grew up reading such strongly male centric narratives (I only read translated classics, and literature written before 1920, really, when I was a kid. USSR wasn't big on pop lit.) I hate to have a stupid heroine who just is useless and trips over her feet, but if a woman is a secondary character, I don't mind. If a man is a secondary character? Depends but I am less likely to be interested.

[meganbmoore.livejournal.com]

Nope, not you(though I guess I can see where you might think so...but no.) I don't post rants directed at specific people. In this case, it's over comments from various people-most who I don't know-in several f-list rants lately.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Also, forgot to add: my relative lack of interest in fictional women does not equal my belief all real life women should go back to the kitchen or that all fictional men should boink each other. I am quite happy with feminism in real life, and het couples in canon. But am usually more interested in fictional men over fictional women. If it makes me shallow, so be it. After all, I usually also prefer attractive characters over hideous ones.

[meganbmoore.livejournal.com]

"Also, forgot to add: my relative lack of interest in fictional women does not equal my belief all real life women should go back to the kitchen or that all fictional men should boink each other. "

If I believed this of anyone, I'd never be able to leave my apartment again out of sheer terror of and despair over the human race.

"But am usually more interested in fictional men over fictional women."

Interestingly, the most common defense of slash that I see(except you don't slash, of course...which is why it's interesting, maybe?)

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

But I like fictional men to like fictional women! I love reading about straight romantic relationships. More importantly, I am compeletely and utterly a canon nazi, and thus most slash is off-limits.

[meganbmoore.livejournal.com]

"utterly a canon nazi, and thus most slash is off-limits."

Not to mention alterna-shipping.

Anddespite appelations flung at us, we are canon nazis...not canon whores. Canon nazis walk away if we don't like the canon and there's not enough other canon to make us happy.

And again I say: if even Gundam Wing couldn't drive me to slashing(crack exclamations don't count) canonically heterosexual guys, then nothing can.