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May I first take a moment to address a point of irritation? The book is set in 1887, and the lead recommendation quotation (whatever they’re called…long day…when authors rec other authors) is from Martha O’Connor, and reads “Had Jane Austen written The Da Vinci Code, she may well have come up with this elegant novel.” Now, I haven’t read The Da Vinci Code. Too many people I trust have told me I wouldn’t care for it, and it doesn’t sounds incredibly interesting to me anyway. (Movie trailers bored me, but that’s nothing to judge the book by.) That said, Jane Austen? Martha O’Connor, I’m sure you are a lovely person and a good writer but go back to your history class. Seriously. When will the world stop comparing every book set in or around England between 1750-1900 to Jane Austen? *tears out hair*

But back to the point.

When Emily agreed to the marriage proposal of Philip, Viscount Ashton, she didn’t do it for love, money, or his title. She did it to escape her overbearing mother. Inoffensive and an avid hunter, Emily thought Philip would be a decent but dull husband who would be too busy hunting in the country and in Africa to trouble her. But Philip died on a Safari soon after their wedding, leaving Emily a widow. For the first year and a half of her widowhood, Emily’s chief concern was the uncomfortableness she felt around Philip’s friends and family, who truly grieved him, making her feel like an intruder. Later, however, she learns through Philip’s friend, Colin Hargreaves that Philip, in addition to being a great lover of Homer and Greek antiquities, Philip was madly in love with her, calling her the Helen to his Paris, and giving her the private nickname of Kallista.

Reading the papers given to her by Hargreaves, Emily comes to know and love her husband through his writings, which recount his version of their courtship, and through him, to develop her own love for the Greeks, both the writings and the antiquities. Eventually, however, she begins to uncover information indicating that Philip may have been involved in forging antiquities, and may have left a number of illegal artifacts to her. There are all sorts of interesting things here. There is, obviously, the aspect of The Iliad, of all things, making Emily fall for Philip, as well as Emily befriending Parisian artists and, through them, developing very liberal ideas and starting to develop suffragette sensibilities. There’s also a look into England’s interest in Greece and antiquities, as well as an exploration into forgeries.

Technically, the book is extremely good and well told, but there was something bugging me and holding me back from getting involved, and it took me a while (almost half the book) to realize what it was. Once I realized it, I started reading the book a bit differently.

You see, I don’t have a romantic image of Paris and Helen. Now, I have no idea how their relationship was viewed in 1887, but my view of their relationship is that Paris, while probably not evil, was fairly shallow and never loved Helen beyond her beauty, and only ever wanted to possess her. Helen, for her part, is a victim, ordered by her gods to leave her husband, family, kingdom and life because she was declared the prize in a bet.

Once I realized that the comparisons to Philip’s great love for Emily to Paris’s love for Helen were influencing me, I realized that I was viewing it the same way. Philip doesn’t seem to love Emily so much as he loves an idea of her. He refers to her in his writings and to his friends as Kallista, and writes of her as the epitome of grace and beauty, interpreting her every word and move as some perfection of womanly beauty. Her boredom is shyness, her disinterest grace, her nervousness at a wedding night with someone she doesn’t know is maidenly modesty. In Philip’s mind, Emily is the ideal woman. The emphasis, however, is on “ideal,” not “woman.” The image of Emily in Philip’s head is a perfect being on a pedestal, not Emily herself. Emily, for her part, seems to fall more in love with Philip’s interests-the world he opens to her-and with the idea of being loved that much, not with Philip himself.

The problem is that I’m not sure how much my reading matches up with the intention of the text. Near the end of the book, there are indications that Emily realizes that she would, in time, have grown tired of Philip’s version of her, evidenced in part by her frustration over how he only ever talks about Achilles, never Hector, who she sympathizes with. The text never, though, addresses Philip’s love for Emily in that context, just Emily’s love, and eventual independence from and of it.

At one point, Emily believes that Philip may be alive. Had this been the case, and the book ended with their reunion, I would have left it dissatisfied. As it is, however, we’re left with Emily having experienced a posthumous “great love,” and having drive and ambition in her life, not to mention interests of her own, as opposed to those dictated by her mother. She’s also almost ready to embark on a courtship with Hargreaves, who knows the real Emily and watched her grow from the listless, bored woman with no ambition into an independent thinker out to claim her own life. I’m interested to see how future books address the subject of Philip, and Emily’s feelings for him.

Date: 2008-09-09 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
I think that well may the only time that anyone ever mentions the Da Vinci Code and Austin in the same sentence. Why would you even make that comparison? Is it that all good dialogue = Jane Austen and all searches for antiquities somehow end in Da Vinci?

The books sounds interesting, though.

Date: 2008-09-10 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
It's not even the dialogue (not that the dialogue here isn't good) but more "Oh? 19th century England? Obviously, it can only be compared to austen."

Date: 2008-09-10 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] advance.livejournal.com
You.. you officially have given me a book to buy on Friday when I cash my check o-o. I have been looking for a new book series to pick up and this sounds cool.

I agree with you over the Paris and Helen thing, when in school I was the only girl in the class room who wasn't moved by the story. I was upset that an entire war was fought over the beauty of one woman and the selfishness of some twit of a man.

I liked The Da Vinci Code, I thought it was really good but if you're not into the idea of corrupt churches or the biggest secret for one of the biggest religion in the world then don't bother reading it.

Date: 2008-09-10 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Yeah. I get the interest in the Paris/Helen story, of course, but not seeing it as a grand romance. Even in Troy, where they played it as a Grand Romance, it felt pretty cheap and shallow. I've always sympathized with Helen, because she's always struck me as being a victim and toy through no fault of her own, but never Paris. But reading the book from that perspective and with them in the roles makes it pretty interesting. I think the author intends for us to see them as Paris and Helen, I just don't know how she sees Paris and Helen herself.

Date: 2008-09-10 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] advance.livejournal.com
I would be worried of the views of the author but at the same time that's what makes books so grand, even if you're not seeing it the same way it's just a different side of the story, you can read into things that they author may not have even noticed were there, or if they're a good one, they purposely write the book so that no matter how you viewed Paris and Helen, you could still enjoy the book.

I hope that made sense... I just woke up.

Date: 2008-09-10 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seriousfic.livejournal.com
I was upset that an entire war was fought over the beauty of one woman and the selfishness of some twit of a man.

Paris of Troy? More like Paris of Hilton, amirite?

I totally need to write a story where Helen hires some Adventurers to re-"kidnap" her to avert the Trojan War.

Date: 2008-09-10 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] advance.livejournal.com
That my friend would be by far the best story ever. I would demand to read it.. with chocolates and flowers of course. haha

Date: 2008-09-10 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seriousfic.livejournal.com
And the two mercenaries would be one of Zeus's bastard sons, and Cassandra. The bastard son is the only one who believes her prophecies, so they sail around the world averting disasters and getting phat loot for their troubles.

Date: 2008-09-10 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kakkobean.livejournal.com
Jane Austen and Da Vinci Code...I'm having a very, very strange image in my head of Elizabeth discovering intrigue in the Darcy household and solving a ridiculous amount of puzzles to discover that he's ardently in love with her. Because, of course, Darcy being the proud man he is, would adamantly refuse to tell her outright and instead set up an infuriating amount of puzzlework for her to slew her way through, convinced as he was that she would never figure all of them out on her own in time for him to have either his enlightened masculine senses to let go of his improper affections or have the courage to admit it to her face.

...Very strange imagery, indeed.

Darcy: Haha, this puzzle will take her forever to figure out--
Elizabeth: *looks over his shoulder* Why do you have a puzzle that, when arranged, forms the words, 'pray look in a hollow tree for the next clue'?
Darcy: *pales considerably*

Date: 2008-09-10 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
*amused*

Yeah, I don't think the Da Vinci Code comparison fits, either, but I haven't read it to be sure.

Date: 2008-09-10 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kakkobean.livejournal.com
I have no idea since I haven't read the book you're talking about or the da vicni code, but from what my friends who have read the code (and from my movie-watching experience), a mix between jane austen and da vinci code would be something like this;
Heroine: Oh, what a lark a day, I am pruning my garden.
Mailman: Here, the post, my lady--you have a suspiciously unmarked letter!
Heroine: Oh, why thank you dear--what is this? I have to make enquiries in France about an old friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend's acquaintance? and there is mysterious stuffs in this letter. HMM. I shall keep it safe.
FRANCE: HI, I'M FRANCE
Heroine: Oh my, France--let us spend the next few paragraphs shopping and gossipping.
French people: aha--'tis you, person somewhat acquainted in a ridiculously english fashion to someone who worked with our business! come to the scene where they were murdered.
Heroine: *gasp* Murdered?! How tragic.
SCENE OF THE CRIME: HI, I'M SCENE OF THE CRIME
French people: Ah, yes, miss. Welcome. Examine this stuff written in strange lettering on the floor.
Heroine: *wondering why the french police can't read english* Hmm. CODE. Fascinating.
French Hero-person...thing.: Hello, my fair lady. May I escort you for a stroll around the perimeter?
Heroine: Certainly, I should think not, for I am otherwise engaged with examining the dour circumstances of the death of this person I know by chance acquaintance. I think he was supposed to marry a cousin of mine. Or he did. *wink*
Hero-person: Haha, let us then be on our way to peruse the pretty french scenery--and, by doing so, get you safely away from the nearby conspirators who think that this man's death is somehow your fault, even though you weren't even in france or aware of this man's presence here to have precipitated it.
Heroine: My word!
Ridiculous chase scene: HI', I'M A RIDICULOUS CHASE SCENE.
Puzzles: HI, WE'RE PUZZLES.
Hero: Ouch, head hurts. He was my da, and well, I didn't quite understand his brain at times. Or how he always won at whit.
Heroine: Clearly, we are in danger because some secret organization that is only referenced vaguely through texts and off-shoots of aurthurian legends has some great conspiracy plot out to get us.
Hero: You are remarkably well-read for a lady, madmoiselle.
Heroine: On the contrary, I am well-read for a man.
Hero: Touche.
ANOTHER RIDICULOUS CHASE SCENE: I'm cooler than the first one!
MORE PUZZLES: I'm harder than the first few!
GEOGRAPHY: HEEEEEY.
Heroine: I think we've reached the climax of our journey, and thus a solution to the greatest puzzle of all.
Hero: What, why everyone wants to kill you?
Heroine: Hah! I am not in the least bit mystified by that quandrary, no--my dear frenchman, the question is why everyone seems so intent on pursuing me when you are with me.
Hero: Quoi?
Heroine: YOU ARE A DESCENDANT OF JESUS.
Hero: HUH?!
Heroine: Well, looks like my version of the good book is going to hell. How fascinating and philosophically schismatic!
SEPARATION: HI, I'M SEPARATING PEOPLE.
Heroine: I certainly can't be fraternizing with the descendant of Jesus, that would be improper of me to presume my presence worthy of you
Hero:...I pine. I pine lots. Pine, dear lady!!
Heroine: trees?
Hero: Evergreen.
MARRIAGE: YAY!

...and...yeah...

Date: 2008-09-10 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prozacpark.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure that the Helen/Paris = True Love comes from later revisions and that the Greeks didn't see them as some Great Romance. And "The Iliad" actually portrays Helen/Paris very negatively. So I'm wondering: Does this book point to "The Iliad" as the source of the Helen/Paris = love myth?

I think I sort of prefer Helen/Paris as something that maybe started out as infatuation, but now there's a freaking war over it, so it's not like they can call it quits and go their separate ways. Of course, no one would write me that story because apparently True Love is more interesting.

Date: 2008-09-10 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Well, it's a time period where everyone is all "Oh! The Greeks! The Classics! Meaningfulness!"

Most of the "Great Love" idea comes from Philip's view, which she then picks up when she reads the letters, but she seems to be over being smitten with it by the end. I think, though, that it plays into the idea of them as Paris and Helen, because both times, it's her getting caught up in his decision.

Date: 2008-09-10 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycenae.livejournal.com
I never liked Paris either. Aside from the ambivalent Paris/Helen romance angle, this book sounds interesting. I have a fondness for historical mysteries and books that incorporate "primary documents" as part of the narrative, so I will have to add this to my ever-growing To Be Read list.

The growing ubiquity of Austen perplexes me. Suddenly Austen sells, sells, sells, so her name gets slapped on everything. I was in Target the other day and they had a whole display shelf of Austen-related fiction. Some of them were actual self-insert Pride and Prejudice fanfic. I do not understand.

Date: 2008-09-10 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
The non-stop Austen stuff annoys me. I have seen and fled from the self-insert fanfic.

But this is, indeed, quite good.

Date: 2008-09-10 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] animeshon.livejournal.com
This book actually sounds quite interesting. I shall definitely have to add it to my list.

As for the Helen & Paris issue, the traditional view of Helen & Paris is that they were deeply in love. They are commonly portrayed as the ideal lovers. The idea being that Paris was so much in love with Helen that he betrayed his country, family & duty as guest of Menelaus to run away with her. Personally I think he should have gone with Athene's option!

Date: 2008-09-10 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Yeah. Paris/Helen, Romeo/Juliet and Lancelot/Guenevere are all "grand romances" that I tend to look at as massive screwups, not romances.

I kind of...uhm...hate Paris?

But the book is very good.

Date: 2008-09-10 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] animeshon.livejournal.com
Paris = blah! Gimme someone more interesting (I have to agree with Emily, Hector is great) Lancelot/Guinivere, I hate!!! Hate sooooo much. I just find nothing romantic in adultery. Romeo/Juliet I can cope with after all they are a teenager drama fest, and I could see them realy behaving that way, cause they really were just teenagers. Still not really positive role models here

Date: 2008-09-10 03:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
I fall on the Hector side myself. Lancelot/Guinevere is especially bad since it's a later addition. Romeo/Juliet is ok when it's remembered thatthey're a pair of stupid kids ruled by hormones, but most pass it off as a great romance.

Date: 2008-09-10 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] animeshon.livejournal.com
Great romance, give me couples who stayed together happily for years. Or Mr Darcy & Elizabeth Bennet, couples who actually fell in love.

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