meme results
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Results of the 5 things/association meme from a week or so ago.
From
badtzphoto :
High School Debut: HEE HEE! My fluffy insane shoujo crack! I will never stop loving how Haruna’s rabid consumption of shoujo manga resulted in her imprinting on how to act like the non-jerky version of a shoujo hero, and how Yoh just kind of goes with it, and I love how it always builds up to Bad Shoujo Tropes, and then cheerily turns the trope on its head.
Claymore: Ah, the shounen that has apparently ruined me for most other shounen. At first I was mostly “Oh, hey, a shounen that’s about women who fight. Maybe we’ll start getting more shounen about women just like there’s a bunch of shoujo about guys.” (Futile hope.) But then I kept getting sucked further and further in until I was absolutely obsessed. It also gave me my first slash pairing, in the form of Helen/Deneve.
The Wallflower: It has no plot, but I love it so much! I swear this is the only reverse harem shoujo ever that not only doesn’t make the girl an excuse to show how great the guys are, but has the guys there to be in awe of the girl. Not only is Sunako arguably one of the best shoujo heroines ever (off the top of my head, there’s only Sarasa and Kyoko that I like more, or am most impressed by) but not portraying the friendship between that guys as all cute and perfect and sparkly and super duper extra touching makes it easier for me to actually care about them. And I love that Sunako’s relationship with Noi, and with her aunt, are also central.
Lord Peter Wimsey: I spent a good chunk of last year reading this series for the first time. Despite the fact that I read a lot of mysteries, I haven’t read a lot of the classics in the genre, and am working on that. My greatest interest here, though, was in how Sayers approached a lot of the social issues of her time, especially those regarding war and women (and I find it sad how many of those issues are still pertinent today) and in the vibrant characters and the wit.
reading backlog: It is my firm belief that a person cannot die if they own books that they haven’t read yet. As such, I am securing my immortality. Actually, I kinda get twitchy if I don’t have a lot of things waiting for me to get to them. And while I can’t smell a bargain on clothes to save my life, I can with books.
From
re_weird :
interesting female characters Basically, with extremely rare exceptions, I can’t get into something if I dislike the female characters. At least partly because I know I’ll focus on them more without even meaning to, and I’d rather be focusing on something I like than something I dislike. So, by default, if I like it, there’s a high probability that I find the female characters interesting. I still haven’t adjusted to how common it is for me to get into something and find that the fandom’s favorite bores me to tears by being so typical, while a character I find much more interesting seems to be dismissed as less interested because there’s a vagina involved.
adorable shoujo As much as I get irritated by most of the popular shoujo angstfests and dramas, I love a good, fluffy shoujo when I find one. I’m also far less likely to want to murder the heroes there.
cool icons I like icons? I haven’t made as many lately as I used to, but I’m sure I’ll be bitten by the iconmaking bug before long.
Epic backlog (seriously, how do you buy that many books? And where do you keep them all? I wish I could get away with that!) Partially answered above! But I have 2 good used bookstores in town, and I stalk Amazon.com for good prices. I also do most of my manga buying with Rightstuf.com’s sales, so most of my manga is between $4.80-$6.00. There’s also Hastings, which has used books, which helps when they have something I want. They also buy used books and give more when you get store credit instead of cash, which comes in handy with my every 5-to-6 month cleaning out of what I’ve read for stuff I won’t reread. I doubleshelve all shelves that I can, and also have a storage unit where most of my comics and older books are.
Sunako: Also partially answered above! One of (IMO) the best shoujo heroines out there. I love that she refuses to change who she is or what she wants just because others think she should, but that she also eventually comes to accept herself without having to change who she is. She probably does more rescuing than she needs herself (if not, then it comes out about even) and has a surprisingly strong-if very weird-idea of right and wrong and standing up for yourself.
From
rhap_chan :
obscure shoujo: I like it more than a lot of the popular stuff! At least partly because the more popular stuff tends to rely on tropes I don’t like.
shipping f/f: I actually don’t do this much! Really, not even in most of the ones we talk about. I think the only ones I’m really into are Helen/Deneve and Kendappa/Souma. Maybe Maddie/London. But the f/f fandom, in general, seems much easier to deal with than a lot of the m/m fandom. Or m/f. Maybe because there’s an almost automatic underdogness in fandom that can’t really be contested, and it’s small enough that it’s harder for there to be wank.
Kim Possible or other Disney shows: Now that I’ve got a DVD player again, I’m at least somewhat broke of the obsession. Despite how cringe-worthy the Kim Possible finale is, I’m still pretty fond of it. Unfortunately, I think I’ve seen every episode of it and Emperor’s New School at this point. I still tend to watch Suite Life and Wizards of Waverly Place, if I turn on the TV and they’re on, but I think I’ve seen most episodes of Suite Life now, and Wizards of Waverly Place got a bit uncomfortable for me sometimes when I realized that the actors for Justin and Alex seem to be crushing on each other a bit. Which, you know, pretty natural for a pair of teens who work together a lot, but a bit awkward when they’re playing siblings.
Skip-Beat! (I'm reading it I promise): My favorite shoujo that’s currently running for me! (There are a couple I like more, but they’ve completed their US runs.) I love how it’s all about the doormat shoujo heroine devoting herself to the alpha bastard who realizes what a jerk he is and sets out to destroy him. I’m not big on revenge plots, but this one has always worked for me. Kyoko is one of the most awesome heroines ever, and I’m always surprised by how much I like the Kyoko/Ren pairing, even though it borders on a few of my squicks. And I love the Kyoko/Kanae friendship and how it’s the most important relationship in the early volumes, and the sheer shounen-ness of so much of the plots surrounding Kyoko in showbiz.
staying up late (idk I'm out of subjects): Largely a coincidence of my work schedule! And likely changing soon, since my work schedule is changing.
From
lady_ganesh :
Woman warriors: Actually a sensitive subject! On the one had, I often love them. OTOH, all too often both fans and fiction assume that’s the only way a female character can have any use, and they so often (though not as badly as in the past) come across as men with breasts or have other tropes I hate. But then there’s cool women with swords or guns or bows and arrows. Especially stoic ones!
Disney heroines I started really noticing characters in fiction right about the time Disney realized that their 8-14-year-old girl target audience might want heroines who do more than be self-sacrificing and sing with animals, so I started imprinting on them heavily, starting with Ariel when I was 9, and their heroines started being more proactive and trying to get the things they wanted, instead of being overwhelmingly pure and good and riding off into the sunset with a guy they spent maybe 3 minutes on screen with. (I should note, though, that I have a fondness for those movies, too.) I think the hit their high notes with Mulan and Megara, though.
50books_POC I’m not sure what to say that I haven’t said recently! Though one thing I should note is that…uhm…a lot of the ones I’ve been reading seem to be a lot better than most of the better know authors in their genre. Marjorie M. Liu has me in danger of forgetting how bad so many paranormal romances are, and I’d give…a lot…to force 90% of high fantasy readers and writers to read Michelle West’s Broken Sword series. Something else I’ve noticed is that, of the authors I’ve read or have waiting or have looked at, most authors whose pen name “sounds” ethnic have an author picture, but those who don’t have an “ethnic sounding” name don’t have a picture.
Harriet Vane I love her! But then, I like all the Lord Wimsey characters. I have no idea how popular an opinion this is, but I like that she put Peter through hell, and that she was never willing to risk that she might accept him just because he saved her.
Kdrama: I have a very conflicted relationship with them! On the one hand, I rather love sagueks (historical kdramas) more than any other dramas. Especially Damo, which I love almost beyond human reason. But on the other, most modern kdramas are centered around tropes I hate. If I had gone with the then-most-recced dorama, Goong, which everyone else loves, when I started watching doramas, I likely never would have touched another. Ditto for if it’d been my first kdrama, which it almost was. And yet, I keep watching them! And really, if you get me in just the right mood, I like the modern ones with all the tropes that irritate me. Except for Fantasy Couple and Lovers, which ignore or flip the tropes.
From
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High School Debut: HEE HEE! My fluffy insane shoujo crack! I will never stop loving how Haruna’s rabid consumption of shoujo manga resulted in her imprinting on how to act like the non-jerky version of a shoujo hero, and how Yoh just kind of goes with it, and I love how it always builds up to Bad Shoujo Tropes, and then cheerily turns the trope on its head.
Claymore: Ah, the shounen that has apparently ruined me for most other shounen. At first I was mostly “Oh, hey, a shounen that’s about women who fight. Maybe we’ll start getting more shounen about women just like there’s a bunch of shoujo about guys.” (Futile hope.) But then I kept getting sucked further and further in until I was absolutely obsessed. It also gave me my first slash pairing, in the form of Helen/Deneve.
The Wallflower: It has no plot, but I love it so much! I swear this is the only reverse harem shoujo ever that not only doesn’t make the girl an excuse to show how great the guys are, but has the guys there to be in awe of the girl. Not only is Sunako arguably one of the best shoujo heroines ever (off the top of my head, there’s only Sarasa and Kyoko that I like more, or am most impressed by) but not portraying the friendship between that guys as all cute and perfect and sparkly and super duper extra touching makes it easier for me to actually care about them. And I love that Sunako’s relationship with Noi, and with her aunt, are also central.
Lord Peter Wimsey: I spent a good chunk of last year reading this series for the first time. Despite the fact that I read a lot of mysteries, I haven’t read a lot of the classics in the genre, and am working on that. My greatest interest here, though, was in how Sayers approached a lot of the social issues of her time, especially those regarding war and women (and I find it sad how many of those issues are still pertinent today) and in the vibrant characters and the wit.
reading backlog: It is my firm belief that a person cannot die if they own books that they haven’t read yet. As such, I am securing my immortality. Actually, I kinda get twitchy if I don’t have a lot of things waiting for me to get to them. And while I can’t smell a bargain on clothes to save my life, I can with books.
From
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interesting female characters Basically, with extremely rare exceptions, I can’t get into something if I dislike the female characters. At least partly because I know I’ll focus on them more without even meaning to, and I’d rather be focusing on something I like than something I dislike. So, by default, if I like it, there’s a high probability that I find the female characters interesting. I still haven’t adjusted to how common it is for me to get into something and find that the fandom’s favorite bores me to tears by being so typical, while a character I find much more interesting seems to be dismissed as less interested because there’s a vagina involved.
adorable shoujo As much as I get irritated by most of the popular shoujo angstfests and dramas, I love a good, fluffy shoujo when I find one. I’m also far less likely to want to murder the heroes there.
cool icons I like icons? I haven’t made as many lately as I used to, but I’m sure I’ll be bitten by the iconmaking bug before long.
Epic backlog (seriously, how do you buy that many books? And where do you keep them all? I wish I could get away with that!) Partially answered above! But I have 2 good used bookstores in town, and I stalk Amazon.com for good prices. I also do most of my manga buying with Rightstuf.com’s sales, so most of my manga is between $4.80-$6.00. There’s also Hastings, which has used books, which helps when they have something I want. They also buy used books and give more when you get store credit instead of cash, which comes in handy with my every 5-to-6 month cleaning out of what I’ve read for stuff I won’t reread. I doubleshelve all shelves that I can, and also have a storage unit where most of my comics and older books are.
Sunako: Also partially answered above! One of (IMO) the best shoujo heroines out there. I love that she refuses to change who she is or what she wants just because others think she should, but that she also eventually comes to accept herself without having to change who she is. She probably does more rescuing than she needs herself (if not, then it comes out about even) and has a surprisingly strong-if very weird-idea of right and wrong and standing up for yourself.
From
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obscure shoujo: I like it more than a lot of the popular stuff! At least partly because the more popular stuff tends to rely on tropes I don’t like.
shipping f/f: I actually don’t do this much! Really, not even in most of the ones we talk about. I think the only ones I’m really into are Helen/Deneve and Kendappa/Souma. Maybe Maddie/London. But the f/f fandom, in general, seems much easier to deal with than a lot of the m/m fandom. Or m/f. Maybe because there’s an almost automatic underdogness in fandom that can’t really be contested, and it’s small enough that it’s harder for there to be wank.
Kim Possible or other Disney shows: Now that I’ve got a DVD player again, I’m at least somewhat broke of the obsession. Despite how cringe-worthy the Kim Possible finale is, I’m still pretty fond of it. Unfortunately, I think I’ve seen every episode of it and Emperor’s New School at this point. I still tend to watch Suite Life and Wizards of Waverly Place, if I turn on the TV and they’re on, but I think I’ve seen most episodes of Suite Life now, and Wizards of Waverly Place got a bit uncomfortable for me sometimes when I realized that the actors for Justin and Alex seem to be crushing on each other a bit. Which, you know, pretty natural for a pair of teens who work together a lot, but a bit awkward when they’re playing siblings.
Skip-Beat! (I'm reading it I promise): My favorite shoujo that’s currently running for me! (There are a couple I like more, but they’ve completed their US runs.) I love how it’s all about the doormat shoujo heroine devoting herself to the alpha bastard who realizes what a jerk he is and sets out to destroy him. I’m not big on revenge plots, but this one has always worked for me. Kyoko is one of the most awesome heroines ever, and I’m always surprised by how much I like the Kyoko/Ren pairing, even though it borders on a few of my squicks. And I love the Kyoko/Kanae friendship and how it’s the most important relationship in the early volumes, and the sheer shounen-ness of so much of the plots surrounding Kyoko in showbiz.
staying up late (idk I'm out of subjects): Largely a coincidence of my work schedule! And likely changing soon, since my work schedule is changing.
From
![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
Woman warriors: Actually a sensitive subject! On the one had, I often love them. OTOH, all too often both fans and fiction assume that’s the only way a female character can have any use, and they so often (though not as badly as in the past) come across as men with breasts or have other tropes I hate. But then there’s cool women with swords or guns or bows and arrows. Especially stoic ones!
Disney heroines I started really noticing characters in fiction right about the time Disney realized that their 8-14-year-old girl target audience might want heroines who do more than be self-sacrificing and sing with animals, so I started imprinting on them heavily, starting with Ariel when I was 9, and their heroines started being more proactive and trying to get the things they wanted, instead of being overwhelmingly pure and good and riding off into the sunset with a guy they spent maybe 3 minutes on screen with. (I should note, though, that I have a fondness for those movies, too.) I think the hit their high notes with Mulan and Megara, though.
50books_POC I’m not sure what to say that I haven’t said recently! Though one thing I should note is that…uhm…a lot of the ones I’ve been reading seem to be a lot better than most of the better know authors in their genre. Marjorie M. Liu has me in danger of forgetting how bad so many paranormal romances are, and I’d give…a lot…to force 90% of high fantasy readers and writers to read Michelle West’s Broken Sword series. Something else I’ve noticed is that, of the authors I’ve read or have waiting or have looked at, most authors whose pen name “sounds” ethnic have an author picture, but those who don’t have an “ethnic sounding” name don’t have a picture.
Harriet Vane I love her! But then, I like all the Lord Wimsey characters. I have no idea how popular an opinion this is, but I like that she put Peter through hell, and that she was never willing to risk that she might accept him just because he saved her.
Kdrama: I have a very conflicted relationship with them! On the one hand, I rather love sagueks (historical kdramas) more than any other dramas. Especially Damo, which I love almost beyond human reason. But on the other, most modern kdramas are centered around tropes I hate. If I had gone with the then-most-recced dorama, Goong, which everyone else loves, when I started watching doramas, I likely never would have touched another. Ditto for if it’d been my first kdrama, which it almost was. And yet, I keep watching them! And really, if you get me in just the right mood, I like the modern ones with all the tropes that irritate me. Except for Fantasy Couple and Lovers, which ignore or flip the tropes.
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