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So, I was tempted to make this post "Clive Owen stole Cate Blanchett's girlfriend," but I doubt I could get away with that.

Before I start, I should probably mention that I haven't seen the first movie starring Cate Blanchett.  I like Cate Blanchett and Geoffrey Rush a lot,  but I don't care as much for Joseph Fienes.  Fiennes.  Whatever.  While I enjoyed Shakespeare In Love, he didn't impress me much and he...he always seems kinda greasy and weaselly looking to me.  I feel very, very bad saying that, but it's true.  Here, he's replaced by Clive Owen.  I approve, as I'm quite fond of him.  Also, the more skanky aspects I've heard about the first movie are gone.

The movie focuses on Elizabeth's steadily increasing problems with Spain and Mary Stuart, as well as her relationships with Walter Raleigh, a privateer, and Bess Throckmorton, one of Elizabeth's Ladies In Waiting, who eventually marry.  Historical fact, not movie spoiler.  The acting is great all around, the visuals are stunning, and the plot is pretty well done.  While I freely admit that my knowledge of the period (like most time periods) is more general than specific, nothing leapt out at me as "no, wrong."  I do have one criticism though, which is that,
The most interesting part, however, was Elizabeth's relationships with Bess and Raleigh.  In many ways, it's set up to be a triangle of Elizabeth/Raleigh/Bess.  In many ways, though, it felt more like Elizabeth/Bess/Raleigh.  While Elizabeth's feelings for Bess didn't strike me as romantic, it was obvious from the start that the two women loved each other very much.  Much of Elizabeth's interest in Raleigh seemed to be centered around Bess's interest, increasing Elizabeth's natural interest, and her comments to Bess about Bess's interest in Raleigh, and Raleigh's interest in Bess, were very, very close to the stereotypical possessive boyfriend explaining how only he could ever like his girlfriend.  When Elizabeth learns of Bess and Raleigh's relationship, it's Bess's perceived betrayal that she takes harder, and Bess is the one she cviews as having been stolen, not Raleigh.

For his part, Raleigh never struck me as romantically loving Elizabeth.  Completely awestruck by her, and smitten with her confidence and power, but his love, while absolute, always seemed to be that of a subject to a beloved ruler, not a man to a woman.  Instead of taking the standard romantic triangle route, the movie seems to take the less0used approach that love comes in many varieties, not just romantic and familial.  While I think both Bess and Raleigh loved Elizabeth more than they loved each other, I don't think romantic feelings were ever and issue, save that their love for each other was a betrayal of their love for Elizabeth, and her love for them, because it was a love and relationship that conflicted with the absolute love and devotion Elizabeth demanded.  

For the most part, Elizabeth struck me as viewing Bess and Raleigh as what she wanted.  Bess the young, beautiful girl everyone likes, because she's kind and pretty, Raleigh the dashing, romantic figure and fulfillment of girlish dreams.  I think the best example of this is the scene where
spoiler )

Anyway, an excellent movie, IMO, and there's no need to see Elizabeth first.  I haven't, and had no problems following it.

Now, all that said:  Elizabeth Tudor:  The original baby kissing politician?  Yes or no? 

OH OH OH!

Oct. 12th, 2007 10:32 pm
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 Elizabeth: The Golden Age came out this week...and I am off next Thurs-Sat(and for those who have my work schedule memorized-you know who you are-I'm working Weds)  I know what I shall hopefully do with at least 2 hours of my time.

(The main thing about those days, though, is the major local booksale...hopefully it will be managed MUCH better than it was last year...which really wouldn't be too hard...)

OH OH OH!

Oct. 12th, 2007 10:32 pm
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 Elizabeth: The Golden Age came out this week...and I am off next Thurs-Sat(and for those who have my work schedule memorized-you know who you are-I'm working Weds)  I know what I shall hopefully do with at least 2 hours of my time.

(The main thing about those days, though, is the major local booksale...hopefully it will be managed MUCH better than it was last year...which really wouldn't be too hard...)
meganbmoore: (lullaby-blah blah blah)
  • Spiderman 3-Can't work up any interest.  Liked the first movie a lot, missed the second one in theaters and have never seen it as whole.  Have seen hefty chunks at various times, though, and pretty much been bored.  Also?  They've already done Gwen with MJ.  Like the Ultimate titles, there's really no point in bringing Gwen in now because her story's already been done.  Yeah, that's the comic book fan in me talking as opposed to the movie goer, but there you have it.
  • Comics-Speaking of comics, April's comics are on their way here and I still have some February and a number of March titles sitting there unread.  Some titles, like 52, it's because they're rather daunting, and others, like Blade of the Immortal and Jack of Fables are NSFW in one of the issues I'm backed up on, but mostly, I think I'm just disassociating myself with comics in general.  It tends to happen when Marvel messes with Thunderbolts(last time they revamped it, my pull list was 3 comics, 2 of which were minis, and then I discovered CrossGen)  I need a new comic to get excited about.  Yeah, Black Canary by Tony Bedard is a step in the right direction, but it's a minor excitement, not enough for me to really get worked up about.  Scratch some of that-mailman just knocked on the door with April comics.
  • Pirates of the Caribbean-Can't wait for POTC 2, and seriously hope the right 'ship wins out.  And by that I mean Will/Elizabeth.  Because, yeah, Jack/Elizabeth have chemistry, but it's the "Hot sex and kill each other in a month if we get together" kind.  I'll take the 'ship that actually has a chance at a happy life and a loving relationship.  Not to mention they're the ones who tend to do things like tear up the Caribbean looking for each other and be willing to do anything for each other.  Sorry, but, in comparison to Will, Jack barely registers on Elizabeth's radar(actually, that's true of anything that's not Will except for her father and possibly Norrington, and that's mostly out of guilt)  If the kraken had been after Will, well, Elizabeth certainly wouldn'tr have done what she did to Jack to him.  And the compass bit?  It's the freedom and lifestyle that attracts her, not the man.  (None of this is to say that I don't adore Jack because I do.)
  • Manga-I need a new manga to get excited about.  Red River is a possibility, but I don't know.  You know my wants-good story, swords, usually fantasy or historical, interesting characters, hopefully a bit or romance, etc.  That said, the most recent new manga I got excited about was Chika Shiomi's stuff(shojo horror, strong heroine centric), and before that, Full Metal Alchemist(Shonen action, alternate history, very plot and setup driven, 'ships are great but almost never a main focus, which is part of why they're great), so obviously I'm not TOO strict about some points.
  • (I say I want a new series to get excited about, but I still have a backlog and a stack of stuff that's just come out that I don't have yet...)
  • The Golden Age-Wish it was out already.  Probably the only movie coming out this year besides POTC 3 that I'm excited about.
  • Books-I probably need to leave off fantasy/urban fantasy for a bit out of fear of burning out.  Unfortunately, I don't seem to currently have my hands on many other books I feel like reading that isn't in that genre.

*starts food and starts sorting through the box of comics*

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  • Spiderman 3-Can't work up any interest.  Liked the first movie a lot, missed the second one in theaters and have never seen it as whole.  Have seen hefty chunks at various times, though, and pretty much been bored.  Also?  They've already done Gwen with MJ.  Like the Ultimate titles, there's really no point in bringing Gwen in now because her story's already been done.  Yeah, that's the comic book fan in me talking as opposed to the movie goer, but there you have it.
  • Comics-Speaking of comics, April's comics are on their way here and I still have some February and a number of March titles sitting there unread.  Some titles, like 52, it's because they're rather daunting, and others, like Blade of the Immortal and Jack of Fables are NSFW in one of the issues I'm backed up on, but mostly, I think I'm just disassociating myself with comics in general.  It tends to happen when Marvel messes with Thunderbolts(last time they revamped it, my pull list was 3 comics, 2 of which were minis, and then I discovered CrossGen)  I need a new comic to get excited about.  Yeah, Black Canary by Tony Bedard is a step in the right direction, but it's a minor excitement, not enough for me to really get worked up about.  Scratch some of that-mailman just knocked on the door with April comics.
  • Pirates of the Caribbean-Can't wait for POTC 2, and seriously hope the right 'ship wins out.  And by that I mean Will/Elizabeth.  Because, yeah, Jack/Elizabeth have chemistry, but it's the "Hot sex and kill each other in a month if we get together" kind.  I'll take the 'ship that actually has a chance at a happy life and a loving relationship.  Not to mention they're the ones who tend to do things like tear up the Caribbean looking for each other and be willing to do anything for each other.  Sorry, but, in comparison to Will, Jack barely registers on Elizabeth's radar(actually, that's true of anything that's not Will except for her father and possibly Norrington, and that's mostly out of guilt)  If the kraken had been after Will, well, Elizabeth certainly wouldn'tr have done what she did to Jack to him.  And the compass bit?  It's the freedom and lifestyle that attracts her, not the man.  (None of this is to say that I don't adore Jack because I do.)
  • Manga-I need a new manga to get excited about.  Red River is a possibility, but I don't know.  You know my wants-good story, swords, usually fantasy or historical, interesting characters, hopefully a bit or romance, etc.  That said, the most recent new manga I got excited about was Chika Shiomi's stuff(shojo horror, strong heroine centric), and before that, Full Metal Alchemist(Shonen action, alternate history, very plot and setup driven, 'ships are great but almost never a main focus, which is part of why they're great), so obviously I'm not TOO strict about some points.
  • (I say I want a new series to get excited about, but I still have a backlog and a stack of stuff that's just come out that I don't have yet...)
  • The Golden Age-Wish it was out already.  Probably the only movie coming out this year besides POTC 3 that I'm excited about.
  • Books-I probably need to leave off fantasy/urban fantasy for a bit out of fear of burning out.  Unfortunately, I don't seem to currently have my hands on many other books I feel like reading that isn't in that genre.

*starts food and starts sorting through the box of comics*

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